[ SECRET POST #2649 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2649 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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04. http://i.imgur.com/eD4bGbG.jpg
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[AlternateHistory.com : Malê Rising]


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[Amelie]


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11. [SPOILERS for Superior Spider-Man]



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12. [SPOILERS for Believe]



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13. [WARNING for rape]

[Orwell]


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[Colditz]


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Comments

[sarillia]

Hmm, unsurprisingly, this person has a very different view of the covenants of the Old Testament than I do. I'd have trouble debating them too though. I know much more about the New Testament and even then I got my ass kicked by a(n ex-)friend based on that text after I came out to her and she decided the appropriate response was to tell me exactly why she thinks I'm a sinner and then give me a chance to use Biblical evidence to support why I'm not. I hadn't even had a chance to study.

[feotakahari]

Yikes. I'm sorry to hear about that.

If you're interested in someone who can respond to the anti-gay verses, Fred Clark has done a good job of handling them. Google

Fred Clark clobber verses

for more information than you ever wanted about the place and nature of anti-gay proscriptions in Scripture.

Personally, I think I found the response that mattered. I told the fellow I was arguing with that I'd read some of the stuff he'd written, and that he appeared to believe strongly in universal love and tolerance of difference. I told him that I couldn't see how that could fit together with his beliefs about gay people. He said that he didn't know why God would be against gay sex, but that he trusted that God was smarter than he was and knew things he didn't, and I knew there was no point in arguing further.

[sarillia]

Sounds interesting. Thanks. I like reading about different perspectives on the bible, even ones I disagree with, but I can't say I don't appreciate the ones that defend me more. Though sometimes even when I want to agree with a pro-gay argument it just doesn't hold up in my mind, so I'm curious to see what I think of these.

[ceebeegee]

My default argument is:

Christ's message was Love. Over and over He preached Love. "Thou shalt love the Lord they God with all thy heart and with all thy soul and with all thy mind. This is the first and greatest commandment and the second is like unto it: Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets." He explicitly said that His message superseded the Old Testament; He explicitly commanded us to Love. He never ever said anything about homosexuality and He would've applauded two people who love each other, no matter their sex/gender. Love love love is the answer. The hardest, most diffiicult, revolutionary act there is.

[(Anonymous)]

All well and good, the problem is when you start conflating 'love' with 'romantic/sexual love'. Plenty of Christians think God applauds anyone loving anyone (men can love men! women can love men! women can love women!) but doesn't approve of every sexual relationship (like homosexual relationships or even adulterous relationships)

[diet_poison]

Thanks for this info. I just spent too much time going through some of it lol. It's a good resource!

[diet_poison]

Gee, I wonder why she is an ex-friend...

[sarillia]

I actually tried to make it work for a little while. She's still generally very friendly and fun to talk to even after the nasty shock of being expected to defend myself. But it was harder than I thought it would be. Then when I left school I just didn't try very hard to return her texts or anything and let things fade away.