[ SECRET POST #2650 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2650 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It harms and debilitates them but they are eventually able to recover, as shown by both your cases. Despite physical healing, Celebrian was not able to recover; her spirit died even if her body was salvaged, therefore yes, Celebrian's case does support L&C's claim that Elves always die from rape.

"Lost and alone and vulnerable" is extremely demeaning and insulting to Aredhel's character. She didn't feel "lost and alone and vulnerable" when she was separated from her companions in Nan Dungortheb, one of the most dangerous regions in Beleriand, and you paint as some witless, hopeless damsel in distress when meeting Eol? And no, that is no rape narrative; the story says that he lead to her to him, not that he kept her captive or that he forced her to bear him a son. He did not kidnap her as she stayed of her own will, neither did he force as she married, stayed and bore him Maeglin of her own will too. I'm a reader too, thank you very much, and it is not a rape narrative to me, period. If Aredhel had known this, would she have agreed to marry him? I don't know, but it doesn't change facts. "Not wholly unwilling" is there to demonstrate this. Earlier writings merely show that Tolkien changed his mind about this, like he did for many other things, and I stand by the version I have.

Your speculations sounds honestly more like projections of your own distaste for a character rather than the examination of a character's feelings to me, especially considering how you disregard her character first only to bring it up again when it's convenient for you. Her reason for leaving Gondolin was that she was bored with it; I do not find it hard to believe that she found Eol's rules about not seeking the Noldor agreeable, as long as she was free to roam by herself as she pleased. Having that freedom is why she left Gondolin in the first place.

As I said, Eol is a tragic character. He didn't care if he himself ended up dead. I see his relationship with his wife and son as tragic, not problematic; problematic is a stupid word in this context and you using it shows how much it's lost any meaning whatsoever.