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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-06 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2651 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2651 ⌋

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I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-06 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They are different mediums after all and I think, often times, if there's no direct competition, fanart is kind of seen as a form of unofficial advertising, while selling fanfic would be seen as profiting from someone else's creation (which, yes, they both are).

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-06 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel pretty negatively about fanfart, myself. I gotta eat fewer beans.

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
the advertising bit is true

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty much that.

But also because if a creator allows actual stories based on their work/characters to be published without it being legally tied to them, they're basically saying that their work is something that anyone can use to tell stories, and more or less forfeit their copyright. It might not happen overnight, but it's the sort of thing that could happen more easily with fic (story) than art (picture).

Y'know, I'll bet fic also has a bit of a reputation from the Mercedes Lackey debacle way back in the pre-internet days. I mean, zines used to be a pretty big thing for nerds, and those were basically fanfic people paid for, until somebody played too hard with the toys and got all the wrong kind of attention.

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 10:29 am (UTC)(link)
"But also because if a creator allows actual stories based on their work/characters to be published without it being legally tied to them, they're basically saying that their work is something that anyone can use to tell stories, and more or less forfeit their copyright. It might not happen overnight, but it's the sort of thing that could happen more easily with fic (story) than art (picture)."

I think you might be confusing copyright with trademark. They're not the same thing, and they do not work the same way. Trademark sometimes works like what you described. Copyright does not.

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Does it invalidate the point that by allowing people to sell fanfic, creators run a greater risk of losing control of the material they themselves created and/or own?

Nevermind the point someone else made upthread where, even if a creator Does Not Read Fanfic, if someone "publishes" or sells a fic, and later the creator has something even remotely similar in their story, DOOM AND LITIGATION (even if it gets thrown out, it's more of a headache than most want to risk).

Re: I think it's because creators feel differently about fanfart vs. fanfic.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
"Does it invalidate the point that by allowing people to sell fanfic, creators run a greater risk of losing control of the material they themselves created and/or own?"

Yes, it does. Because as I stated, that is not how copyright works. If you write a book and bunches of people are inspired to write fanfic, you still hold the copyright to your work. While your copyright may expire over time (long after your death), you don't lose it because you failed to prosecute people who sold fanfic based on your work. You can still hit them with a C&D or a lawsuit any time you want-- two hours after they release their fanfic, two weeks, two months, two years. Whatever.

"Nevermind the point someone else made upthread where, even if a creator Does Not Read Fanfic, if someone "publishes" or sells a fic, and later the creator has something even remotely similar in their story, DOOM AND LITIGATION (even if it gets thrown out, it's more of a headache than most want to risk)."

And? If I slip on a banana peel in the produce aisle, I could sue the store AND Chiquita for breeding such damn slippery bananas. I'd be an idiot and a ass for doing so, and if I had the money to press a nuisance lawsuit, I'd be shot down very quickly. All systems have the potential for abuse, but most writers understand that the risk you're talking about is fairly minimal, especially if they have a known policy of never reading fanfiction.