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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-06 04:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2651 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2651 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-06 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"If you want to make money off your work, change the names and rewrite it into original fiction."

I hear this a lot, but I wonder how come nobody tells artists this? Oh, if you want to make money off your fanart, just change it a bit and sell it as original art instead. There's still this strange double standard for fanart vs. fanfiction.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-06 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably because an original story has better chance of being sold than a drawing of two(or one or more) random characters, not matter how well drawn they are?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
SA

Just wanted to clarify that what I mean is that stories can be considered as a stand alone (which give them a chance of being sold), while a poster/phone case/etc. (which is how fanarts is usually sold, afaik) would have to be VERY eye catching for someone to consider buying it.
Otherwise most people would say "yeah, that's nice" and move on to search something with their favorite character/something they like more.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
It's not that easy to sell original writing. Ask any struggling writers how many rejections they've received, how hard it is to find an agent who'll even look at your manuscript and how difficult it is to make decent sales even if you're published.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
No one said it was easy, but compared to the chances of selling random original illustrations, a writer may have a better chance on getting someone interested on their original story.
Hell, someone drawing comics has a better chance of selling their original comics, illustrations and other stuff using their art than someone who draws random original characters.

And the point of all this is that most "fanartist" only draw illustrations and that makes pretty obvious why they would have a harder time selling their original stuff than someone creating more than that.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it would work the same way for art. You can file the serial numbers off fic and still reach the same audience because you can change enough to avoid copyright but still hit the same buttons that drew them to the original - certain character dynamics or fantasy tropes or whatnot. Kinky porn is kinky porn regardless of what you call the characters.

Whereas fanart draws on people's interest in something that is, generally, in a different medium. Most people don't want Harry Potter fanart because they're really into dark-haired kids with whimsically shaped scars and striped scarves, they want it because they have an interest in the character who happens to look like that or the story that he comes from. So drawing pictures of a dark-haired kid with square glasses, a crescent-shaped scar, and a purple and yellow scarf just wouldn't work the same way. There's a lot more overlap between the markets for fanfic and original fiction than between the markets for fan art and original artwork.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-08 04:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Kinky porn is kinky porn regardless of what you call the characters.

How does this not work for art, too?

Or is fan fiction all porn now and fan art is all clean and holy?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Perhaps because most fanart is shittier than most fanfic? I think this is an unspoken truth. There's fewer fanartists than writers about so they get more praise for less, that's all.

Like someone said below, if you did a Harry Potter fanart, but changed his hair colour/clothing and gave him square glasses, there's very little market to sell that art (unless it's a known AU).

If you wrote a Harry Potter novel-length fanfic, then changed enough details so it was original fic, you could potentially sell it.

Doesn't that imply that most fanart is simply of a lower standard than the average fanfic?

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
Could potentially, yeah, but thinking it's realistic to sell your crappy rebranded fanfiction when original fiction is hard as hell to break into is funny in its own right.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-07 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it implies that people have lower standards for writing than for art?