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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-11 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2656 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2656 ⌋

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Grabbed some from next week's subs post so it wouldn't be all spoilers today.

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Re: I don't have any problems with people being vegan....

(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah. I'm a vegan and I bloody hate militant vegetarians and vegans. Like, stop preaching, dude. It's a personal choice.

I also hate militant meat eaters. You wouldn't think this is a thing, really. Some people get really worked up when they find out I'm vegan and feel like they have to lecture me. It is SO WEIRD.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-04-11 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, militant meat eaters are annoying too. (just don't be so bossy about people's diets people, is that so fucking hard?) I don't get people getting really pressed about what someone else eats.

I went to school with a militant meat eater(and he was an asshole in other ways especially to me) and he told me he thought that vegetarians thought that giving children meat was child abuse. I was just like "no that's the crazies...and PETA" He was just a sorta OVERLOADED ON TESTOSTERONE type in general. There was one time we learned about a person in history (suffragette and anti-alcohol) doing some protest against bars and he 's like "someone shoulda shot her" . Total redneck.

(also when we worked together the dude embarrassed me in front of my coworkers by telling me about how I failed at life for writing fanfiction. In front of my JOB COACH no less)

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I cannot believe he did that to you. D: Sounds like you are well shot of him!

I don't get people getting really pressed about what someone else eats.

I know, right?? I mean, you can believe in the importance of subjects surrounding food. Does lecturing people on that subject convince them of your POV? HELL NO.

Re: AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Thankfully yeah. I haven't seen him since like...2009ish. I hope he's grown up a little at some point.

Lecturing people and attacking them tends to make them defensive, and if you want to convince someone of your POV , them being defensive is the LAST thing you actually want. I've discovered this - the same principle applies in beta reading and critiquing someone which I've done before- and it's proven to be true time and time again but no one seems to want to listen. It's like they all want a reason to yell at someone and tear them down and claim they're doing it to "educate/teach them" or help them . Or in the case of many a tumblrite they just decide that the person is scum and no longer deserving of manners at some point.
cakemage: (HAVE WE LIVED AND FOUGHT IN VAIN)

Re: I don't have any problems with people being vegan....

[personal profile] cakemage 2014-04-12 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I think that in both cases it's generally because you have people on both sides of the fence who are so sick of the other side giving them shit over their dietary choices that they immediately jump onto the offensive out of perceived self-defense as soon as a meat-eater or vegan so much as mentions the subject of diet, which leads to the opposite side building up anger and hurt feelings on the subject so much that they're willing to jump down someone else's throat over the issue just so that they can be the one to draw first blood in the encounter, and so on. And so militant meat-eaters and militant vegetarians/vegans basically feed into each others' rage in an endless cycle, both sides past caring about actually changing anyone's mind and only interested in winning the argument so that they can rub their hard-won moral victory in their opponent's faces.

Such debates can be a lot of fun to watch from the sidelines.

Re: I don't have any problems with people being vegan....

(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
(Vegan anonn from above)

Truth.

As with all important things in life though, the militant crazies on both sides ruin it for everyone else. Food is totally an important issue - both on a global and local scale.

But, as you say, people are so coloured by their brushes with the crazies that it rolls over into most discussions on the subject.

Re: I don't have any problems with people being vegan....

(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Same anon as above ^

Just want to point out that I when I say food is an important issue, I don't mean we should all become vegans! Rather that there are many sides to the food debate (ethics, sustainability, availability), and that the answers are nowhere near clear cut.

My choice is for my own, specific reasons that I won't go into here. ;)

Re: I don't have any problems with people being vegan....

(Anonymous) 2014-04-12 08:28 am (UTC)(link)
I love how we handle this in my family. When I cook a fancy family menu when we're all together, it's 95% vegan (and delicious) for everyone. When we want to go out, we often choose a place that only has one or two vegan options on the menu for our vegan, and she's cool with us eating and enjoying meat at the table.

On the other hand, if we find a cool veg*an place, there's no problem going there either.

It's all very relaxed, like it should be.