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So I'm writing a fix-it fic for my current fandom. In fine old fix-it fic tradition, I'd like to bring somebody back to life. The canon I'm working from has travel between universes/magical realms etc via dimensional portal, but dead people stay dead unless they're not exactly people; very powerful sorcerers and some magical creatures occasionally rise from the grave/get resurrected/etc, but plain old boring humans are pretty much worm food.

I'm planning the fic as a crossover where a few characters go on a heroic world-hopping journey to bring their friend back from the dead. They think they might have his soul or spirit saved in a jar, but they can't be certain. I have a world where they succeed in bringing their friend back picked out already, but I don't want it to be too easy; I'd like them to make a few attempts in other places before they manage it.

So, FS, anybody have recommendations for books/shows/comics/movies etc where both travel between universes and resurrecting the dead are possible? I'd prefer stories where the resurrection doesn't require killing somebody else/torturing some poor bastard/generally isn't a nasty awful thing only attempted by necromancers and psychopaths who enjoy making people miserable. If you enjoyed reading/watching them, so much the better; I'll want to read or watch anything I incorporate into my fic.

"I'll want to read or watch anything I incorporate into my fic."

Shouldn't you come up with your own ideas, instead of plagiarizing from someone else?

AYRT--I'm writing a crossover fanfic, so not exactly? The canon I'm working from is Once Upon a Time--basically a gigantic crossover fanfic in itself. If Belle from Beauty and the Beast wants to bring her lover Rumpelstiltskin's grown son back from the dead, with the help of her step-grandson, who is also the grandson of Snow White and Prince Charming and adopted son of the Evil Queen--all those relationships are canon in the show, btw--how can I possibly make the show campier or more derivative? Dr. Frankenstein, The Wicked Witch of the West and the Wizard of Oz, Captain Hook, Peter Pan, Tinkerbell, and Mulan are all running around as well.

Since the show is broadcast on ABC, which is owned by Disney, it's possible that characters from Star Wars, Marvel Comics, and Tron will show up on the actual TV show. Honestly, I doubt I can make the source material any less original. The only originality on the show itself is created by the show writers exploring the relationships between the characters. They don't always do it well, and I'm not expecting to improve on their efforts, I'm just writing this for fun. If you just want to be angry at my unoriginality, I suppose I can't stop you.

da - You obviously don't write/read much, or you'd know how silly the concept of coming up with original ideas is.

Eh, I'd think it would work a lot better to just have something in universe act as an obstacle/mislead the characters instead of doing massive cross-overs with things you'd only be reading to use in the fic.

If nothing else, it would flow a hell of a lot better, probably be easier on you to write, and - if you care about this sort of thing - would be a lot easier for your intended audience to follow.

Echoing what the anon above me said. Universe hopping and resurrecting the dead don't exist. There's no "science" - at least not in the details - for you to get wrong, and any shows you watch will probably be making up their own shit anyway.

So I'm not sure why you need to "incorporate" anything into your fic at all.

AYRT--I dunno if you saw my reply to the anon questioning my originality--I'm writing a Once Upon a Time fic. Every time the writers of the show need a new villain or obstacle, and many times when the characters are searching for a particularly important mcguffin, it's found by traveling to a pre-existing fictional universe (Oz, Neverland, Wonderland, and A Land Without Color--basically a Universal/Hammer Horror pastiche, our world, and probably more to come) and usually this travel is accomplished via dimensional portal. I don't want to make up a way to resurrect a character or a place to do it, because the writers of the show I'm writing the fic for wouldn't, although they often butcher the canon they're pulling from.

Well, universe hopping was never specified in Grimms Fairytales or Hammer Horror stuff either. So you could use really anything with weird magic/science rules, and it'd work.

As for shows where the dead can be brought back to life pretty easily, Pushing Daises is what immediately comes to mind. Stargate has resurrection technology (and dimension hopping). But both are modern day and implied to be in our world. OUaT goes more for the classics, so even with those in place, it'd be out of place.

Something you could use would be Greek mythology. Several heroes actively pleaded with Hades to restore the dead to life and, in Orpheus' case, he almost succeeded. Very much like all the other worlds have their stories known in ours due to bleed through/the occasional traveller, you could make the same case for the Greek gods. Play around with it a bit, use them as either gods, or immortal sorcerers, or dead sorcerers that left behind useful macguffins.

DA

Iirc, the ones who almost succeeded [including Orpheus] actually went through Persephone most of the time, instead of Hades himself. At the very least, the two most successful in terms of either bringing someone back [Orpheus] or escaping Hades [Sisyphus] appealed to her, not her husband.

So, maybe the OP could have them have to take a way around whatever the main thing keeping them coming from coming back to life in a similar manner?

I'm following a fic called Natural 20* that abuses Dungeons and Dragons's various mechanics for reviving the dead. One or another of the various D&D settings could work well with your fic, and you'd just need to read up on the setting details rather than reading an entire series.

* It's a Harry Potter crossover. Remember how hard and ultimately pointless preventing natural death was in that canon? That's all out the window now.

Edited 2014-04-12 00:40 (UTC)

AYRT--thanks for the heads up! Also, ooh, new HP fic to read.

I'm probably going to have the character ultimately brought back in the universe described in Daughter of Smoke and Bone by Laini Taylor, which includes both magical resurrection (via glorified charm necklaces made of teeth) and dimensional portals, with passing mentions of a couple of Greek myths (which the canon I'm writing for already stole, since Midas, Medusa, and Pegasus make brief appearances), a few other cultures' myths (why stop with Greece), Star Wars (because they've got force-ghosts and also cloning and it's owned by Disney, which also owns the canon I'm writing for), and The Thinking Woman's Guide to Real Magic by Emily Barker (a little girl who was eaten gets ...er... reconstituted by means of putting her gnawed bones and a dead rabbit in a cooking pot and leaving it to simmer overnight.)

If I mention anything from D&D it'd be in passing as the characters research how to bring someone back from the dead, since it's a gaming system rather than a world in itself. Or maybe it counts as lots of teeny related worldlets in the minds of countless DMs.

Well, there's a fair amount of both travel between universes and resurrecting the dead in the Stargate canon, also there's time travel, which you could use to keep the characters from dying.

The Marvel Cinematic Universe has resurrection (of a sort) and bridges to other worlds/dimensions.

I'd say a lot is possible in the Pirates of the Caribbean universe.

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