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[Injustice: Gods Among Us]

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[William Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus]

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[Welcome to Night Vale]

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[Crown of Stars]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]

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[LOST]

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[Riff-Raff, Rocky Horror Picture Show]

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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]

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[Breaking Bad]

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[Problem Sleuth]

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I would like evidence of these changes that GRRM made and approved of (I don't doubt that they exist, but...the only one I've heard of is his disappointment with Robb's wife and how her plot was mismanaged.)

Also, the sex and violence between book and show is DRASTICALLY different. There's a difference in tone, amount, and type, and it's silly to deny that.

I enjoy both versions of the material, to varying degrees, but I don't understand how you can honestly say that it hasn't massively changed from book to television.

"massively"

Yeah, no.

They completely butchered Robb in the show. The point of the character was that he was his father's son and that the stupid Stark honor was the reason why he ended up dead, just like his father. He would have never broke his engagement just because he had feelings for a girl.

Except GRRM wrote the episode where Robb confesses his love to his wife when she tells him she's pregnant and everything.

Also most of what we see of Robb in the books is from his mom's POV. I can see her being biased and seeing her dead husband in everything.

And? If the showrunners decided that Robb is going to fall in love with a woman and marry her, then GRRM has to write show!Robb based on that. Show canon =/= book canon.

Yes the showrunners decided that, without his knowledge, despite him being always present in the production, the shootings and everything.

Reading comprehension. Try it sometime. I never said he didn't know about it.

GRRM has said numerous times that the showrunners are the ones running things. He's even gone as far as to tell them that their changes will contradict future books and they've gone ahead anyway. Just because he's involved doesn't mean he endorses everything on the show.

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insanenoodlyguy - 2014-04-17 00:54 (UTC) - Expand

I think it was the Freys who completely butchered Robb, actually.

Shots fired

*snort*

ohhh too soon

ahahaha

Agreed. The way they handled Robb (especially re: Talisa vs Jeyne, as well as Catelyn's relationship with him) is probably my least favorite change in the show.

At least they kept his execution of Lord Karstark intact, since that was his other big "honor" mistake.

I agree. My friend theorized that it was to make him seem more likeable, but I thought most people would feel as I did: it is MUCH more horrible for him to say fuck all to all of his duties and obligations because he can't keep his dick in his pants than it is because he feels like the right thing to do AS KING is to abide by honor. I mean, it's pretty fucked up that he's sending people to die in his battles but can't fucking say no to a pretty face.

except in the book he broke his engagement as well? For slightly different reasons, but both can be summed up as "he ended up with another girl then the one he was already engaged to"

More like for completely different reasons. Book Robb did it because he had fucked her when he was out of his mind and now he had to take responsibilities. Show Robb did it because he ~fell in love~ with her.

In the books he was a fifteen-year-old who had been wounded in battle, and whose brothers had just been killed by a close friend of his, so that being distraught he ended up sleeping with a girl who was nice to him, and who may have been unwittingly thrown into his arms by her own mother. Then he had to be dishonourable one way or another, either by breaking his engagement or by leaving Jeyne (and possibly a bastard child) in a really tough position. Sure, it was a huge mistake but a much more understandable one.

In the show he just married Talisa because he wanted to.

those "slight" reasons were the whole point, and they made me dislike the character in the tv show.

How is the sex and violence drastically different

Grant you, I've only read the first book and watched the first season (and the main reason I've only watched the first season is because...I've only read the first book. And I just can't do one without having done the other), but I agree with you wrt the sex and violence. It's handled very differently on the show (I mean, shit, people even came up with a new term to describe what's going on in the show: "sexposition"), and it's very noticeable.

I would disagree that, during adaptation, it was "massively changed," but I hear that subsequent seasons mark a further departure from the books than the first season, so my difference in opinion may just be due to my limited knowledge.

Sexposition is an old term...

Huh. Well, I didn't know that! Thanks, anon. Ah, the things you learn on FS.

I've found that it diverges further and further as it goes. The first season is a nearly straight adaption. After that, not so much.

I think the only BIG change in a storyline was Dany's ACoK arc.