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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-16 07:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2661 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2661 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Injustice: Gods Among Us]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[William Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus]


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[Welcome to Night Vale]


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[Crown of Stars]


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[Game of Thrones]


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[Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]


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[LOST]


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[Riff-Raff, Rocky Horror Picture Show]


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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Problem Sleuth]


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[Doctor Who]








Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 034 secrets from Secret Submission Post #380.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-16 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if they don't want there to be panic or to be viewed as monsters...don't do it on live TV? I imagine that Superman and Batman (two dudes who have been hiding their identity forever) can't kill and hide a dead body.

And I really doubt some cop or reporter is going to be like, "Man. That clown who keeps murdering kids disappeared. Someone start a missing person's case!"

And there is a huge difference between a corrupt politician and someone that murders people over and over and over and over, who escapes from prison over and over and over, and who can only be defeated by one person.

Honestly, if I lived in Gotham and this asshole dressed like bat kept letting the murdering clown loose, I'd already hate him.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-04-17 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
But it's Batman who isn't letting the clown loose. It's society, namely the police and mental hospital. It's not like Batman is opening the door and saying, "BE FREE!!!" It's more of Bruce coming across a breaking news report that the Joker is loose again and he has to go out and catch him. AGAIN!

If anyone is to blame it's the court system. They are the ones who say that Joker should be allowed to live. They are the ones who are not making sure that he is being housed in a place that can hold him. It's not Batman's place to do such things. He is not an officer of the law.

Think Jack Ruby killing Lee Harvey Oswald. Oswald killed JFK. Ruby killed Oswald. People weren't hailing Ruby as a hero for killing him. Why? Because it wasn't Ruby's place. He was not an officer of the law. Society did not give him permission to kill Oswald. And that's what is happening here too. Society has given Superman and Batman permission to fight the bad guys on their behalf but not kill them.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
But Jack Ruby was killing a man who was already arrested (and who only killed one person). And while no once considers him a hero, no one is saying that he is a super evil person (no more than any other murderer).

The Joker has killed and escaped repeatedly. Obviously the court system in Gotham can't handle supervillains (which is why they need a superhero). So why does Batman keep sending him right back to the place Batman knows he will escape from? Hell, if he doesn't want to kill him, Batman can make his own prison in the middle of Antarctica.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-17 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Because once Batman takes over the duties of the justice system entirely - not only apprehending villains, but deciding and doling out their punishments - he basically becomes the system. And there's no good ending to one man being in charge of what's just and what isn't. Especially not a man like Batman, who is perpetually one last straw away from just bombing Arkham and ending the farce. I think Batman gives himself limitations because he lives on the thin line between being a hero and being a dictator. He could easily be running Gotham with the police as his personal lackeys and yeah, private prisons where he puts everyone he deems dangerous; he could become what he fights without even noticing until it's too late.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-04-17 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
It sounds like the solution would be for Batman to officially ally with Gotham police. He has no superpowers, just training and equipment. His equipment is reproducible, and he's trained apprentices before. Why have one Batman acting outside the law when you can have many Batman working within it?

(Did I just suggest mirror universe Anarky?)
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-17 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
I dunno what his relationship with the police is at the moment in comicverse (what with the reboot and all), but the Commissioner set up a Bat signal for him and everything and meets with him on the regular to share information, so he's been pretty officially allied with the cops for a long while. Although lending out his equipment is a good idea.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 03:01 am (UTC)(link)
But he would not be taking over the justice system of normal criminals. Just supervillains. Those guys that everyone knows the cops will never be able to keep locked up. Because the supervillains always get out.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-17 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
But Joker, the most dangerous of them all, is only human. Why does a normal human, who's extremely smart but not exceptionally wealthy or powerful, keep getting out of max security facilities? As mentioned above, why hasn't the system slapped this guy in the lethal injection chair - they must have a mountain of evidence against them. If Batman takes over for this particular human monster, he'd have to take over for them all.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-17 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
It isn't the asshole dressed as a Bat that keeps setting the Joker loose, it is the asshole dressed as a rich asshole in the mayor's office who won't forkout for better security in Arkham or Not-Alcatraz. And the assholes in the DC Federal Government who will neither charge the Joker federally (despite there being enough grounds) or transfer him to a federal supermax. Or the assholes dressed as Gotham police officers, who apparently don't do jack all day because they rely on the asshole dressed as a bat to do it all for them. The Asshole dressed as the Bat is the only one even keeping Gothamites slightly safe for short periods of time.

I do not dispute that Bruce is an Asshole though. This is a known.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-04-17 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I do not dispute that Bruce is an Asshole though. This is a known.

Everyone who knows him would probably agree. Hell, Bruce would probably agree too.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Batboy could make people safer for longer periods of time if he just shot the damn Joker. I don't care if it is against his moral code or this is not what society wants him to do. You can totally say it is the government that is letting the Joker free over and over, but the government is not society. Especially in a place like Gotham were government is probably corrupt as hell.

I hope I am not coming off as too aggressive. :P

(Anonymous) 2014-04-17 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I've always wondered why anyone would voluntarily live in Gotham. Sure, some of them are probably too poor to move, but it seems like anyone with any resources wold be moving the minute they could.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I know right? Or why would you live in any major city. Eventually there is going to be a supervillain attack.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-04-17 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Because that's where all the delicious food is. It's either Gotham or being stuck in the middle of North Dakota where the most exciting thing food-wise is the local Taco Bell.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-17 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, if good food is such a big deal they can learn to cook well themselves!
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-04-17 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
What if the major cities aren't actual cities at all, but "model cities" that are kept running as supervillain bait while society quietly keeps things running in Nowheresville?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Then I feel bad for people who live there. :(
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-04-17 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe it's like jury duty. They know that shit happens, so everybody in the population has to spend a month on rotation living in the Big Cities, and pray that shit doesn't go down during the month they're there.

bam, dystopia.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-04-17 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
I hope they are compensated.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-04-17 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
They could offer all sorts of things. Tax breaks, free housing, possibly free public transportation (which is probably shiny and new 'cause it all gets trashed every few months).
In order to keep these cities running, they have to keep them looking awesome and shiny, so Nowheresville is actually forced to be pretty podunk despite being the actual commerce center, while New York and the other model cities are always new and fancy.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-17 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Iiiiiinteresting. And I mean that in an entirely positive way.