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⌈ Secret Post #2661 ⌋

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[Injustice: Gods Among Us]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[William Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus]

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[Welcome to Night Vale]

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[Crown of Stars]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]

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[LOST]

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[Riff-Raff, Rocky Horror Picture Show]

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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]

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[Breaking Bad]

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[Problem Sleuth]

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[Doctor Who]

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Bleach, because A) the more obnoxious parts of the fandom were seriously getting on my nerves, and B) I wasn't enjoying reading the manga anymore. This was toward the end of the Hueco Mundo arc, and I was sick of every single fight getting stretched out for a billion boring, backgroundless chapters.

I also pretty much gave up on DC comics ever since the reboot. I might grab some back issues from the library on occasion, but I won't read anything published post-Flashpoint and I'm sure as fuck not giving DC any more of my money.

I was that way with Naruto. It is just too much. Now I don't start a lot of shows/anime/etc unless I know there is going to be an actual ending.

And what did the DC reboot do? Just reset all the storylines?

AYRT

The reboot was the worst thing DC has ever done. They sort of partially reset some of the storylines, but left others alone and condensed all the major events that had unfolded over 20+ years into a period of about 5 years. As a result, the timeline now makes no sense (particularly where Batman and his associates are concerned). Apparently some retcons have been made in an attempt to correct these fuck-ups, but they didn't really work. A lot of characters were aged down, brought back from the dead, or totally erased from continuity. At least two canon marriages were broken up for no reason, and in keeping with the new policy of unmarried superheroes, the plan for Batwoman to get married was scrapped (even though it would bring DC lots of publicity to have a canon gay marriage). All this is just the tip of the iceberg; I didn't even get into all the writers working for DC who were screwed over by stupid decisions, but this comment is starting to get tl;dr so I'll stop now.

Are reboots and resets like that not common in comics? Hrm. I always thought they were.

AYRT

Not really, no. DC's only had one reboot before this one, starting with the Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline. However, there were a LOT of big crossover events tying into Crisis on Infinite Earths, and even more crossovers dealing with the aftermath of those crossover events. Most of those crossovers involved retcons, so that's probably where the misconception comes from.

As for Marvel, they've never had a true reboot, although they've recently revamped most of their titles to be more newbie-friendly (which I think is much smarter than what DC's done).

I hate I have all these questions for you. :P So does that mean that (for Marvel at least) the original Captain America is the same storyline as the current one? Don't they die sometimes? Or is dying and coming back not considered a reboot?

AYRT

Sort of? I mean, if you wanted to start reading Captain America comics in the 1970s then jumped to a storyline from 2002, the overall tone of the would be pretty different, but they're still technically set within the same continuity.

The characters do die and come back from dead (quite frequently), but it's no different from when a character is brought back from the dead in a soap opera. I don't think we can truly call something a reboot unless the continuity gets totally rewritten and/or replaced, like for example the new Star Trek films.

(And I apologize if I'm not explaining this very well. Believe it or not, I'm not a hardcore fan!)

Marvel's term is "broad strokes." Generally speaking, what happened in long-ago issues is still canon, but it may not have happened in exactly the same way. (In particular, the timescale slides around a lot to accommodate how much faster new events happen in the comic book universe than new comics come out.)

I had a messy breakup with DC too. :( They used to be my favorite, but then the reboot just got rid of everything I liked about DC in the first place. Also, they got rid of/fucked up all my favorite characters (the Phantom Stranger, Oracle, John Constantine, Steph Brown, both of the Questions) and I'm still kind of fangirly-mad about that XP

I actually kind of gave up on a lot of comics in general. I look in on Astro City or Fables occasionally but I haven't even glanced at anything new in a couple years, I don't think.

I just looked up The Question's new origin on Wikipedia.

"When magic was first harnessed by humans on Earth, the first magic users saw it as their duty to protect the Earth and humanity from those who would seek to harm it. These seven wizards of the Rock of Eternity summon before them the three worst sinners in Earth's history for judgment. The Trinity of Sin as they come to be known consist of a woman named Pandora, Judas Iscariot (the man who would become the Phantom Stranger), and the Question whose sin has yet to be revealed. The Question is punished second after the Phantom Stranger and defies the wizards and the power that they claim. He says that if they do not kill him he will rise to power again and the wizards and the world will fear his name. The wizards then erase his name from his memory and the memory of the world and erase his facial features. He is then cursed to wander the Earth constantly questioning everything and seeking answers he will never find."

What the blooming hell? I mean, I like this character description. This character description is cool. But how is this the Question?

It's not the Question! And it's not the Phantom Stranger either!

Like, I would like this origin, too, if it were anybody who wasn't the Question or the Stranger. Make it an original trio of characters and this could be a really interesting story that I would probably really be interested in (from the bare bones anyway, execution is a different thing).

But that's not the Question, and that's not the Stranger. The Question questions things, yes, but not because he's cursed; it's because he's human, and he's a driven, principled kind of guy. He's not on a quest for revenge or anything; he's just really dedicated to questioning and investigating everything, and I thought that made him unique and interesting. Even in his different incarnations, this is the common strand, and I thought that was really cool and interesting.

(I'm most steamed about the Stranger. He's not only my favorite comics character, he's probably my favorite fictional character period. So I'm a bit miffed that they've stripped out every unique, uplifting, interesting thing about him and just filled it with boring bog-standard nonsense.)

You sound like me with Naruto. I jumped ship with the Kage arc.

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