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⌈ Secret Post #2661 ⌋

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[Injustice: Gods Among Us]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[William Shakespeare's Titus Andronicus]

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[Welcome to Night Vale]

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[Crown of Stars]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Blade Runner/Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?]

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[LOST]

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[Riff-Raff, Rocky Horror Picture Show]

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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]

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[Breaking Bad]

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[Problem Sleuth]

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[Doctor Who]

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I'd be with you if not for the way they fucked Catelyn over. She's the pov character, not Robb. Yet in the second and third seasons I swear you could count her scenes on one hand because the show dudes decided they weren't interested in her, what they really wanted to do was to spend more time with Robb. ....oh wait, Robb's a fucking idiot. BUT WAIT, WE CAN FIX THIS! Let's invent him a love story, with this whole new character we made up, and spend a bunch of time on this instead of ya know SHIT THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED and Catelyn sits around in the background (while we're at it let's just take all her decisions away from her and have people like Littlefinger or the Blackfish or Robb himself suggest them to her, that's good characterization right?) and then by the time the Red Wedding happens it can be like her third appearance that season and she dies.

like. GRRM did not make Robb a POV character FOR A REASON. He showed him, for most of the series where he's still alive, pretty much only through Cat's eyes FOR A REASON. Because Robb is a deconstruction of the Boy King trope (well, one of two in that series. The other one is Joffrey) in which he's young, he's tough, he's a good battle commander, he's even got the moral high ground! But he's still just 15 in the books, 19ish in the show, which means he makes stupid decisions. We are forced to watch these decisions through the eyes of his mother who CONSISTENTLY advises him to do exactly the opposite of those things and he keeps going "mom, I got this". "Honey, maybe you shouldn't send the Greyjoys back the only leverage we have against them.." "mom, I got this." "honey, Cersei has your sisters and we have her brother, let's make a deal" "mom, I got this." (meanwhile, Tywin Lannister got Sansa married to Tyrion so now the Lannisters have themselves a claim to Winterfell and therefore THE NORTH.) "Honey, you swore an oath to the Freys, a massive house with a ton of soldiers AND a very important strategic position, and incidentally you KNOW their big daddy is a spiteful dickhole -" "mom, I got this." "HONEY, MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T BEHEAD THE GUY WHO'S THE PATRIARCH OF LITERALLY HALF YOUR FORCES" "MOM, I GOT THIS."

this is the point of her story. But the show doesn't care. To the show, it's not even HER story (never mind the fact that -MASSIVE- SPOILER FOR THE END OF THIS UPCOMING SEASON.........SHE'S the one who's gonna come back. END OF SPOILER) the show just wanted to take away the deconstructive aspect of it and make it a straightforward Robb Story about a brave young kid who died for love rather than a kid who wanted to do right but had no place styling himself a king and died because he wasn't ready for that level of responsibility, and the real focal point of the story is powerless to stop it.

it upset me on various levels. One, because I love Cat. Two, because it's rare enough that a fantasy-flavoured political thriller like this would even FEATURE a chharacter like her in an important role in the first place - a mother, not evil but not perfect either, who doesn't fight with a sword at all. placing her there and showing so much of the action through her eyes felt like a goddamn feminist victory, and then the show ballsed it up - seemingly through a lack of understanding of what the Robb storyline was all about in the first place.

other than this, yes, it's a pretty faithful adaptation. Other changes exist but none of them really bother me (though i'm not quiiiiite sure what they're gonna do with the Tyrion and Shae story at this point and that has the possibility of weird fuckery as well)

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would u like some tl;dr bro?