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⌈ Secret Post #2663 ⌋

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[Stardust]

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[Elementary]

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[El Goonish Shive]

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07. http://i62.tinypic.com/29cxt2a.jpg
[Hadaka Shitsuji, censored porn]

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08. http://i.imgur.com/XGwxaCR.jpg
[cosplay; no sex but definitely nsfw]

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[Art by: http://www.deviantart.com/art/Lets-Sing-Together-338248375]

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17. [SPOILERS for Soul Eater]

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18. [SPOILERS for captain america: the winter soldier]
[WARNING for rape]

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19. [WARNING for suicide]

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20. [WARNING for incest, possible non-con]

Notes:

Late at work again, sorry. Should be back to normal by next week!

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If you create a female character solely to kill her off to give a male character man pain and motivation, it's fridging.

Personally, I think anytime you create a character solely to die for another character's pain and motivation, it's fridging, if that helps.

I also don't think that fridging would have anywhere near the negative connotations that it has if it weren't so overdone. So many male characters have dead women in their closets as the be all and end all of why they do things that it's pretty stale and obnoxious and no longer emotionally resonates with a lot of people.

That said, it sounds like you're writing a horror story, and that this event happens near the beginning? It also sounds like SOMEONE has to die for the plot to happen at all. While you could switch it around, and have like...a kid going insane because they're worried their parent is going to stick around, I can see how that would be difficult.

(Also, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt about being a troll, even though that "female characters should not drive plot" line is taunting me. The situation you describe is not a female character driving plot.)

I can see how the last line would bother you. I don't think I expressed myself properly at all (ha, should probably work on that as someone who wants to be a writer!). I was more referring to an attitude I've seen in some circles wherein a female character is considered to be "bad" if part of her purpose is to move the plot along.

It's a really difficult thing, because I need something that sends him over the edge, but I don't think that there's anyway to do that beyond killing someone who's close to him (particularly given the way the world works. When you die, if you refuse to pass on, then you remain in the world of the living and feed off of them. Part of why he goes mad is because he thinks to tempt someone into refusing to pass on). So far, what I've done is further develop his wife and make it so that she's not the one who dies, but I feel iffy about that because his main contacts are women, and so killing someone whose close to him would still involve killing a woman.

I guess the real question is: are there some instances where fridging actually works and is okay?

DA--so when you say "female characters should not drive plot," what you mean is "female characters should not be plot devices, right? Because creating any character solely to be a plot device/a means of development for another character ups the chance of the writing being kind of shaky. The integrity, the ability of characters to seem real and draw readers in, isn't as strong if someone reading the story goes "oh, I get it, character x is a catalyst for the important character's development and pain and whatever." If you're gonna kill a character off so someone else freaks out, the readers/audience should love them like the character who's left behind does. If the readers don't care, then they'll be picking the story apart going "aw, shit, another story where some girl got killed off to further Captain Stubble's manpain," instead of wanting to know what happens next.

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