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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-20 03:14 pm

[ SECRET POST #2665 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2665 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-04-20 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I must admit, I read the books late and haven't watched the TV series, but I never 'got' the deep, intense hatred of Joffrey. Of course, he's a horrible character, but there's a book full of 'em. He's thirteen. He's got a psychopath mother and a father-who's-not-really-his-father who can barely tolerate him. His whole family is messed up. He never stood a chance. He's just a kid. That doesn't excuse anything he did- thirteen's old enough, especially in this world- but compared to fully-grown adults who should know better, I don't get why he is the most-hated character.

Obviously I get why people hate him, but I don't get why they hate him more than Cersei or frigging Ramsay Snow! I'd say it's down to what I've heard is a fantastic performance by Jack Gleeson, but a lot of book readers truly hate him too.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Because child monsters are more horrifying than adult monsters. Both because we're culturally trained to view children as innocent, and because you can't really look at a child monster without reflecting on what they're liable to turn into once they're grown, with an adult's faculties and resources. As horrible as Joffrey was, he would (if he hadn't been killed off) only ever have gotten worse - if there was ever any chance to save him from that, it ended as soon as he was crowned, and probably long before that.

He's also less interesting than a lot of the other monsters - he acts upon the characters the audience is meant to care about, but he doesn't get his own character arc (as Cersei does), and is almost more plot device than genuine character. The same could arguably be said of Ramsay, but cunning monsters tend to create more fascination than straightforward unsneaky sadists. (That said, most of the fans I interact with also want Ramsay to die horribly and soon, so he's not exactly universally beloved.)