[ SECRET POST #2666 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2666 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

ikr

What made me laugh was people saying that Jaime is now ruined 4eva while ignoring all the cold-blood murdering small children and old men thing...

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

Jaime's character arc in the books - at least so far as we've seen it - could be summarized as going something like this: Guy does some really awful shit, in part out of loyalty to his family, in part because he thinks it's necessary, and in part because he's just an asshole. Then he gets separated from his family, loses his hand, meets someone who sets him a better example. This leads him to reconsider his position in life and start acting like less of an asshole, although he still has problems.

Now with the show it goes something like this: Guy does some awful shit, starts to figure stuff out and stop being an asshole, and then decides to do some rape.

Jaime isn't ruined 4eva because this is worse than anything he did before. He's ruined 4eva because this takes place after he's started trying to redeem himself - because it's incompatible with the storyline that made Jaime anything other than a horrible person. It's a whole completely different other thing.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

This is what GRRM has to say about it:

Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/367116.html?thread=19030284

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah so... I get it that in the age of woobie and whump, redeeming a character is the thing to do but I really don't see how the shit he did can in any way be redeemed, no matter how much he changed.