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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-21 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2666 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2666 ⌋

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Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
What I found hilarious was tumblr liveblogging THANKS FOR THE TRIGGER WARNING HBO and TRIGGER WARNING: RAPE IN TODAY'S GOT

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-21 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Does HBO do trigger warnings? Do any shows? (I think some warn for disturbing content but with this show I just assume that's true of every episode.)

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Nope.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I know some do. Teen Wolf, for instance, had a trigger warning on one of its episodes last season.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Are you serious? Did it say trigger warning or was it that generic warning for disturbing content?

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think it used the word trigger. (But maybe? My memory, it's shit)

But it was more that the generic 'the following program contains blah blah blah'. It specifically mentioned what the issue was (though, ironically, not the issue that I found most troubling about the episode, haha)

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
It was basically a trigger warning, but in the usual formal way of writing "user description is advised etcetc"
Can't remember what it warned for though. Possibly disturbing scenes.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
How did they pull it off? The thing with trigger warnings, differentiated from general warnings, is that they're really specific, and imagine would be spoilery if placed before an episode.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I believe (my memory is shit) that it specifically warned for things related to medical/mental health institutions. But then, it wasn't a spoiler, since the episode in question had been hyped as the Insane Asylum Episode for the entire season.
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Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU BE WATCHING GAME OF THRONES (OR ANY HBO DRAMA) IF YOU NEED TRIGGER WARNINGS

FOR FUCK'S SAKE DO WE NEED TO WARN FOR STUPID BECAUSE AT THIS POINT IT'S LIKE BLITHELY DECIDING TO WATCH JAWS WHEN YOU ARE TRIGGERED BY SHARKS

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Why would you watch GoT and not expect someone to get raped, is what I'm wondering.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
I could get not expecting people to get raped left and right of you just started watching the show without knowing anything about it (and the books) but hell, it's the FOURTH season, you'd think they might have gotten a clue by now.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
This is true. I mean. You're going to have to look away everyone other minute.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
The caps aren't necessary.

If they read the book, they wouldn't have been expecting THIS scene to be rape, because it wasn't in the book. Read the damn thread (or did all the lowercase letters confuse you too much?).
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Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[personal profile] chardmonster 2014-04-22 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
We aren't only talking about people who read the book.

Look, we'll be happy to surround the rock you live under with trigger warnings for all known media, but if you are a thinking person who pays any attention to what's currently popular you know Game of Thrones is pretty famous for this shit.

Again, this is like putting Trigger Warning: Shark Attacks on Jaws.
Edited 2014-04-22 02:13 (UTC)
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Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-04-22 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
No, you aren't supposed to be talking about the books in the Tyrion thread because the secret had a picture of TV!Tyrion. This thread started with "That didn't happen that way in the book!".

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
are you obtuse on purpose

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
CAPS ARE ALWAYS NECESSARY

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I really hope you're trolling and not serious here. Because it can be really hard to tell.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I am deeply baffled by anyone who claims to need trigger warnings for rape and who also watches GoT on purpose (as opposed to flipping past, or wandering into the room when someone else is watching it, or...whatever). It's an incredibly rapey canon. This is a well-established fact. At this point, it seems a little bit like people repeatedly sticking their hand into a meat grinder to see if it still hurts this time.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
ikr

What made me laugh was people saying that Jaime is now ruined 4eva while ignoring all the cold-blood murdering small children and old men thing...

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Jaime's character arc in the books - at least so far as we've seen it - could be summarized as going something like this: Guy does some really awful shit, in part out of loyalty to his family, in part because he thinks it's necessary, and in part because he's just an asshole. Then he gets separated from his family, loses his hand, meets someone who sets him a better example. This leads him to reconsider his position in life and start acting like less of an asshole, although he still has problems.

Now with the show it goes something like this: Guy does some awful shit, starts to figure stuff out and stop being an asshole, and then decides to do some rape.

Jaime isn't ruined 4eva because this is worse than anything he did before. He's ruined 4eva because this takes place after he's started trying to redeem himself - because it's incompatible with the storyline that made Jaime anything other than a horrible person. It's a whole completely different other thing.

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
This is what GRRM has to say about it:

Also, I was writing the scene from Jaime's POV, so the reader is inside his head, hearing his thoughts. On the TV show, the camera is necessarily external. You don't know what anyone is thinking or feeling, just what they are saying and doing.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/367116.html?thread=19030284

Re: Game of Thrones- Spoilers

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah so... I get it that in the age of woobie and whump, redeeming a character is the thing to do but I really don't see how the shit he did can in any way be redeemed, no matter how much he changed.