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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-21 07:02 pm

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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-04-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Well I don't subscribe to the using your sexuality as a prominent part of your identity mindset, it is a part for sure, but it shouldn't define you. Be it straight, gay or anything in between. I'm not stopping anyone from doing so, it isn't my place: free world and all.

But I much prefer my future children to tell me that they are bringing home a gf/bf and his/her name is and if it turns out my kids aren't straight I would rather they did it that way than coming out of the closet in a serious discussion. I will not celebrate the fact that I have a gay kid any more than I would if my children are straight. It is not something that should be celebrated, because it is something completely normal and ordinary and should be treated as such not as something special.

I think I lost it for a moment, I have no idea where I was going with this and I should probably just go to sleep... I hope I didn't manage to insult you or anything, because that wasn't my intention at all, I just enjoy discussing these topics.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2014-04-22 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well, yeah, that's the ultimate goal that everyone can agree on, for us to stop regarding minority sexualities as exceptional at all. But we haven't actually achieved that in any capacity, so right now people expressing minority sexualities can still run into a lot of social and legal trouble just for doing the exact same thing heterosexual people without having to worry about being judged (less so straight women than straight men, of course, but both of them more so than non-straight people).

We do not live in a world where straight people are the only ones who don't care about sexuality while those darn non-straight people keep making a fuss, and any implication that we do - which I'm saying is the implication behind "sexuality is not identity" only coming up in conversations about non-straight people - is distressing
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-04-22 09:31 am (UTC)(link)
I know, it isn't as close to me living in a bubble up in scandinavia where for the most part we are all pretty damn equal. But I don't ever mean that one shouldn't fight for the basic rights every damn person are entitled to.

I probably didn't make it clear enough, I don't think it is okay for straight people to define themselves by their label either. I don't think I have ever met anyone straight doing that, but 1. I don't know the whole world, 2. somehow I barely know any straight people.

I just don't like labels defining you, they are a part of you, but a person is more than one defining trait.

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
No, you're wrong. Flat out. If I can be killed because other people consider my sexuality the be-all, end-all of my existence, then yes, yes, I can claim it. I will define myself as non-cishet if I want to because the rest of the world sure as shit is.

A child coming out of the closet isn't doing it for you to 'celebrate their queerness' wtf are you even trying to say here, seriously. If that's what you think coming out is about, then wow but do you ever sound straight.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-04-22 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'll tell that to my girlfriend...

Didn't tell you, you can't claim it, didn't say anything such at all I said it shouldn't be a defining characteristic in a person, not for straight people or gay people or anything in between.

I am seriously scared about my writing skills your your reading comprehension. I wasn't talking about random children, but my future maybe children, growing up with a bisexual mother and probably a second mother, they would know whatever sexuality they end up having does not matter... I also said I will not celebrate any kind of sexuality because it is completely normal, it is not something that should need celebration and I would have been pretty damn offended if anyone celebrated me when I came out of the closet...

Sounding straight is such an idiotic thing to tell people...

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
ntayrt but pretty sure it's your writing

(Anonymous) 2014-04-22 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
NAYRT - "Sounding straight is such an idiotic thing to tell people... "

Agreed. It's a very reductionist argument, and it's playing to stereotypes. "You sound like [insert type of person]." Really rubs me the wrong way.

And whenever they're wrong, of course they insist you must be lying.