[ SECRET POST #2667 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Then recommend it because it's a new series that you find awesome and want to share. Recommend it because you think your coworker and his daughter would enjoy it since it fits your coworker's taste or sense of humor or interest and is age appropriate for his daughter. Recommend it for all these reasons and because you believe it's something you would have enjoyed sharing with your father.

DO NOT recommend it because "oh look, you guys have the same skin color!". Do you even know if, beyond skin color, your coworker shares any cultural traits with the heroin? Even if he does, would he he really appreciate some random American's take on it? In a comic? Would he care at all about the heroin's skin color? Remember, race as Americans see it is a super reductive concept. Things such as culture, ethnicity or religion have a much larger impact than you'd imagine. Two people can share the same skin color and literally nothing else so if you imagine that just because they share a color or a country of origin this means they'll automatically identify with her you might be dead wrong.

Basically, if you have a good reason to recommend it then please do and share your passion with your coworker. If your only reason to recommend it
is because of the main character's race, then please abstain.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sorry, I just can't take this comment seriously because 'heroin'. *laughing forever*

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I was like, "Wait, what?" But then I realized it was supposed to be heroine.

[(Anonymous)]

...good grief, let this be a warning people: do not post late at night while relying on your spellchecker for re-reading....

[dreemyweird]

Do you even know if, beyond skin color, your coworker shares any cultural traits with the heroin?

I'd be seriously concerned if that were the case

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, pretty much.

Also, THANK YOU for acknowledging this:

"race as Americans see it is a super reductive concept."

[sarillia]

I think this is good advice in general but it depends on the recommend-ee. I like looking at portrayals of people with disabilities in media and I have friends who recommend stuff to me based on the fact that they have well-done disabled characters. If OP's friend would see "awesome Muslim heroine" as a plus then I think OP should go ahead and recommend the series.

[a_potato]

I think this is a good addendum to an otherwise good comment.

[iceyred]

I think I like your suggestion better. Sometimes people like reading/watching characters who resemble them. Nothing wrong with that. Nothing wrong with saying 'Hey, I read this book about this character. She's . It's a great story, and X, Y, and Z happened, which I really loved. I know there aren't a lot of stories featuring characters who are . Would you be interested?'

If the other person doesn't want to read it then they always have the option of saying no. It's not that hard.

[(Anonymous)]

Except the OP can't know what her coworker would like to read, in this case: would they want someone who looks like them, shares a culture with them, shares a religion with them or share an ethnicity with them or have the same nationality as them? These might very well be completely different things for someone who is from Pakistan. Saying "you should read this because you guys look alike!" just shows how ignorant you are about all of these topics and is frankly kinda rude.

[iceyred]

Except they could ask their co-worker what they like to read. Good gravy, they could even ask them if the portrayal of their culture was authentic, what the coworker thought of this character. Goodness, they could have a conversation!

I mean, I don't get offended when people ask about my culture or talk about books or media that feature it. I'm guessing that most people who are not jerks like it when others take an interest in their culture and it's portrayal in media.

I'm not the ignorant one here. I know how to have a conversation.

[iceyred]

You're very self-righteous about this.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Thank you.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Well in this case the author herself is a Mulsim woman, of middle eastern descent, so it's not really just a random American's take, and part of the books themes deal with the way many Americans view ethnicity. One of the supporting characters is a particularly clueless concern troll.

I'm Canadian btw not that there's much difference sometimes. I relate to a lot of the themes explored in the book for different reasons than "the heroine looks like me."

I do in fact know that there are some shared cultural elements in both the book and my coworker's life since he has shared some of that culture with me (I have several Pakistani and Indian coworkers so discussion of culture is fairly common since I'm quite often the outsider in a group of four or five during discussions), though he is the only one who has a daughter for whom the material would be age appropriate.

From what I've seen they're a progressive, and liberal family but also still traditional and religious... the family presented in the comic is a bit more conservative and less religious (except for the main character's older brother).

Basically I'm trans and I would have loved to be introduced to a character who was "like me," in comics when I was young... I realize that's not exactly the same thing... but I also love to share good comics with people, especially introducing girls and women to role models who kick ass!

But yeah I still don't know.

Re: OP

[iceyred]

Do it. He'll appreciate you taking an interest in his culture and you can use it to ask him questions about what it got right/wrong and what he thought of it.

And if he doesn't want to read it then he can always say no.