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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-04-22 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #2667 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-04-23 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I didn't say that did I? If you're teaching students for more than a week you know exactly who is lazy, who is just quiet, and who is probably fondling themselves under the table. You get to see all of their work, every test score, and see what they do every class.

You'd have to be an idiot not to realize that.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-23 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
yeah well most people who teach ARE idiots and dont belong anywhere near a classroom or school

you cant tell everything about somebody just by staring at then 50 minutes twice a week, dipshit

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-04-23 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
I can tell everything about how someone is doing in my class, actually. And when I'm teaching that's really all I care about, unless someone gives me a reason to do otherwise.

I can tell when you aren't getting it but you're working hard and struggling, I can tell when you're not doing any work, and I can tell when you're not even mentally present. And yeah, I'm not going to let someone who's intent on fucking around get away with it on my time. Deal with it.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-23 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
no speaking as a student who was failed and never helped through my crippling OCD, my severe depression (which i was later institutionalised for) and my abuse-related anxieties, you do not under any circumstances know everything about a student, their learning preferences and aspects of their lives that interfere or otherwise affect their ability to learn safely and effectively in a standard classroom environment

not everybody can be read like a goddamn book, some of us are closed up and reserved for a reason, ie. abuse, and your assumption that you have this magical omniscience when it comes to your unfortunate students is fucking rich. you may think you know everything there is to know about a student but you don't, and your failure to recognise otherwise is what makes school so miserable for a lot of otherwise good kids who feel they have no choice but to give up on standard education because nobody cares about them, because SO MANY teachers are like you and just make shitty fucking assumptions about people and set them up for failure

you're the worst kind of teacher and i feel sorry for anybody who has ever had to sit through any of your lectures or courses in any form. YOU are the reason any of your students have failed, it is YOUR fault

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-04-23 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah... no I'm not buying it at all actually. Not considering my current profession. I do know all of the signs of anxiety and OCD, and I deal with both of those situations daily in my work.

None of my students ever had any of those problems, so your point is pretty much moot for the circumstances I was in. I taught kids with other behavioural problems to be sure, don't worry about that.

Also? None of my students failed. The ones that were there to fuck around and cause trouble dropped the course when I wouldn't let them.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-23 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
i dont need to prove anything to you. telling me my experiences are forged doesnt make them any less real. i'm less inclined to believe you're any sort of a decent teacher whatsoever so i guess we share something in common there

the bottom line is that you dont know what other people are going through, you dont live their lives, you dont experience what they do. you only get a perception of them that is just as likely to be wrong as it is to be right, even with proper training. people who are abused, negleected or other emotionally or mentally ill/afflicted/"abnormal" as some of you jackoffs like to say are not easy to read, we arent all the same, and many of us have learned to hide our "problems"

that you think you know everything about things you dont face and about people you hardly know is hilarious. you suck at teaching, theres no doubt about it. i feel so fucking bad for your students, i hope they were able to undo any damage you dealt them

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-04-23 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
That's not what I said. At all. In summary: your personal experiences, traumatic though they may be, don't automatically apply to my teaching methods.

At this point you're projecting your own experience way too much onto what you assume to be my teaching style to have any clue what you're talking about. These are clearly unresolved issues for you, so I hope that you can come to some closure.

But you seriously have no idea what the hell you're even talking about any more.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

(Anonymous) 2014-04-23 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
agreed.

making assumptions about students is not a good idea. I mean, even if there is a kid who's lazy - well, okay, they're lazy. what are you gonna do about it? how are you gonna motivate them or get at least some kind of knowledge to stick in their head? you're the teacher.

anon makes some good points - even otherwise conscientious people can appear to be "lazy" or unmotivated when things like depression crop up.

(speaking as someone who had depression earlier this year, and could barely drag myself to lectures...)
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Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-04-23 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
No you can't.

Hope that helps, god bless.

Edit: And you're making yourself sound ridiculous.

Also, you will never have your students respect if you come off a fraction like you do here.
Edited 2014-04-23 02:31 (UTC)