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Comments

Re: Complain about other websites

[feotakahari]

"A lot of them describe themselves with genders like 'demigirl' aka 'I feel like a girl sometimes but not always but I don't have dysphoria.'

I think the relevant term is "genderfluid."

I'm not going to defend anything you're linking, but as a queer person who doesn't identify as either gender, I'm always wary when people start policing who is and isn't a "real" queer person. You don't have to suffer dysphoria to not identify as whatever stupid category people keep trying to lump you into.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't have dysphoria you are not trans. Period. To say otherwise is transphobic, because you're turning being transgender into a choice.

Now, who else thinks that being transgender is a choice?

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

For fuck's sake, just because you don't physically feel like you're in the wrong body doesn't mean you're *choosing* to be trans, that doesn't even make sense. If I'm a guy, and I'm into guys, but I don't fuck them, am I *choosing* not to be gay? No.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

SA

That analogy makes even less sense, sorry. Teach me to post after an all-nighter :-/

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

Your analogy doesn't work.
It would be more like "You're a guy and you don't like other guys but you claim you're gay because you can totally be gay without being into guys".

Re: Complain about other websites

[insanenoodlyguy]

That is not actually part of the definition though? I mean, it's tumblr, I'm sure there are fakes... but that's not the official definition of trans.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

It is, actually, having dysphoria is part of the medical definition of being transgender.

Re: Complain about other websites

[feotakahari]

I could not choose to identify as male or female. I would not be capable of identifying as either of those things. That doesn't make me trans, and I never claimed to be such, but it doesn't make me male or female, either.

I know the term "agender." I have been educated enough to be familiar with the term. But there are probably plenty of queer people who've never heard it and don't know that it fits them. If someone's calling themself by the wrong term, you certainly have the right to be irritated, but that doesn't mean they're a fake, it just means they're confused.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

There are lots of components to being trans and personal agency is one of them for many people. It isn't for everyone, but yes, for many it is. Also, dysphoria and choice can coexist, you know.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

Can't you see how that hurts those of us that do have dysphoria, though? Because now people that are meant to be our own community are telling us that it's all in our heads and we should just stop being dysphoric, as though we don't get enough of that from everyone else.

I'm a woman, I hate the fact that my body is not, and now it's everyone making me feel even worse about the fact because apparently I'm simply choosing to be difficult about it.

I agree that there's such thing as a non-binary gender or a non-gender in the first place, but I honestly believe it shouldn't be called "trans". By nature, the word means "transitional". If you're fine in your body and not identifying with either binary gender, that's great! But it's not trans.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

Non-binary-identified people aren't the ones hurting people. It's the people who react poorly to them and then decide that their reaction applies to everyone who claims not to be cis who are the problem. Non-binaries aren't making anyone react like that, and would also prefer it if they stopped.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

No but they are. Not the entire group, of course, but the subset of non-binary-indentified people that now call transpersons with dysphoria that fully intend to transition "truscum". It is a problem. It is a very real problem.

Re: Complain about other websites

[feotakahari]

I am not trans, and I am not saying I am trans. I am queer, and I want the right to claim that term without people telling me no, I'm [whatever the fuck they want to call me this time.]

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

What about nonbinary people with dysphoria? I'd love to be able to transition but I really doubt that either the medical establishment or society in general would be willing to let me take a third option.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the "truscum" I've seen are totally okay with nonbinary people, as long as they have dysphoria- there are even some nonbinary "truscum", such as dogeself on tumblr, and the enbyk8unit on the same site.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

The people who came up with the term "transgender" in the first place advocated it as an umbrella term including things ranging from transsexuality to crossdressing. (It's not usually used that way nowadays, but that was the intention.) So, nope, try again with your ~by nature~ argument.

If someone tells you to "just stop being dysphoric" or that it's wrong of you to fel that way, yes, they're being a dick. If you insist everyone experience their transness the same way as you, you are also being a dick.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

THB I don't get the idea of gender fluid. I'm a girl and I almost entirely wear clothes marketed towards men, like hobbies considered masculine, and spend most of my time in male oriented spaces. I still very much consider myself a girl. It seems like it would be more useful to ungender certain things rather than fighting with people about special snowflake labels.

Re: Complain about other websites

[feotakahari]

I'm a bit wary of this sort of logic, precisely because it makes sense to me. Male and female aren't things that really make sense to me--you might say they don't exist in my little world. But they clearly exist to and are extremely important to many other people, and I can't say that's wrong or not real. I think the idea of what is and isn't a valid identity is best left to the people who think in the manner that would allow for that identity.

Re: Complain about other websites

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. The entire concept of 'genderfluid' seems to be based on societal gender roles and presentation and honestly it comes off as a sort of 'I'm not not those OTHER girls' sort of thing.