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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-07 07:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2682 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2682 ⌋

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All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Just because something about Black culture doesn't relate to you personally doesn't make it "racist." The long and short of it is this, in many ways, it is considered a step up to date outside of your race. A lot of bullshit comes with that. A lot of Black men who go for trophy White women can be seen as Uncle Toms. A lot of the Black women who go for White men could be seen as yet another "slave" sleeping with "massa."

The mentality sticks, because that's where it started. Although the physical chains are gone, the lingering effects of slavery and racism are everywhere. Therefore, biracial relationships, and the children produced from them, are never going to be seen without some kind of damning filter attached.

I both understand this mentality to some degree and disregard it, because I enjoy dating outside of my race. However, as a Black person, you have to accept the fact that you will be criticized for dating within a group of people that have done literally everything in their power to hold Black people down.

Is it nice to criticize other people's relationships? Nope, but it will be done by White people, too. It is not just Black people who have ugly things to say. After all, it wasn't Black people who wrote and passed laws that it was illegal for Black people and White people to marry. Furthermore, it's not Black people who are much more likely to disown or stop speaking to someone in a mixed race relationship. Chatter aside, Black folks will let you bring much more whomever you're dating around, regardless of skin color.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
So...it's okay to treat the biracial kid like shit and invalidate her feelings because of the context of her parents' relationship?

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 01:58 am (UTC)(link)
You know it's funny, it's usually the black side of the family that is harshest on interracial kids than the white side.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 02:40 am (UTC)(link)
I was thinking the same thing.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 05:05 am (UTC)(link)
Not in my family. The white side is more interested in fetishizing me and my siblings while going on about how "ghetto" the black side of my family are. Despite the fact that my mom and almost all of my aunts, uncles and cousins are college-educated and have good jobs.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The white side of your family sounds pretty shitty (though I imagine you still love most of them) but did you really meant to say they are fetishizing you? If they're really fetishizing you then you have a waaaaay bigger problem than some rotten comments... unless you're into that sort of scene, in which case I'll just back away now.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-09 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
da

"Fetishize" doesn't necessarily mean anything sexual. I'm guessing the other anon is using the term more along the lines of treating them like they're strange and exotic than finding them sexually arousing.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Definitely depends on a lot of things, much like life. We're only allowed to call it racism if it's from white people.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
No, it's not OK. But things don't exist in a vacuum - cultures included - and often understanding the greater context (which the poster above you provided) is the only way to work through cultural problems (like how to accept biracial people in a society that's still pretty damn racist).

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Going after someone for interracial dating seems pretty racist to me. Just saying.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 03:56 am (UTC)(link)
+1. MTE.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 05:33 am (UTC)(link)
You do not get it. No really. The comic is nuanced and maybe people have to live that reality understand, or be willing to accept that some of the strip requires cultural context.

It both highlights the ridiculousness of Huey's position... She IS both and really CANNOT choose and shows what many people think anyway. That you do in fact have to choose. Yet, Huey also is that guy... the one that thinks he's trying to help you love your black heritage.

It also shows Jazmin's frustration with just trying to be who she is and having people tell her that she can't be that while at the same time highlighting how who she is is, in fact, influenced by certain historical issues.


TL;DR: Sometimes Huey is right, sometimes Jazmin is right and none of their arguments would occur if the society they lived in wasn't racist.

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 10:31 am (UTC)(link)
NA

How do you know the OP isn't a POC?

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 02:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Why the capitals...

Re: All of these white tears and not enough buckets to hold them.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-08 03:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you must be white. Of course. There is not a single black person in all of creation who might have a different take on this from you.
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Re: white tears?

[personal profile] visp 2014-05-08 05:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Yanno... assuming that the OP is white, why do you think that s/he's crying just because s/he thinks a show in insensitive to biracial children? I mean, does 'white tears' now encompass every opinion a white person has, regardless of category or how strongly the speaker feels about it?

"I think french toast is better than waffles."
"OMG WHITE TEARS!"

"I think Bob was a little mean to Sarah today."
"White Tears!"