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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-14 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2689 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's mostly down to the idea that it's often easier to get people to read fanfiction (even AU fanfic that's really far removed from canon) because fandom's a built in audience and original fiction is something that is, in a sense, untested. I'm not saying it's logical, but I think that's the perception. I mean how many people who consume Sherlock fic read mysteries? (Or even the ACD stories?)
cloud_riven: Close-up of an open-mouthed piglet! Is it recoiling? Or side-eyeing? Maybe saying, "HEY YOU TWO SHOULD KISS"? Mystery! (eeeeeeehhhhhh)

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2014-05-14 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
But I don't want to read about Jackass and Shit Head's Big Trip Across the Stars ftr i do >:U
I wanna read about Tony and Loki being thrown into a spaceship and friendship and stuff!

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, I'm one of those people. I just love AUs. It's got the bonus of interesting worldbuilding as well as characters whose dynamic I already care about.

It's not the adventures that interest me. Fanfic with good plot is a rarity.

It's more the details of the AU world that's created. Fanfic is especially good at taking a crazed idea that would never sell in original fiction (omegaverse, for example, not that I'm even into that) and running with it for a hundred miles.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, there is Omegaverse original fiction. Look up Lora Leigh's Breeds novels. There's something like twenty.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

OMG no way. The world has shifted on its axis. I genuinely thought that was a fanfic oddity.

Ah, well. Argument defeated.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
There's an easiness to reading fan fiction with familiar characters, and it's FREE. Some people don't want to pay for fiction.

Personally, I would rather buy stories than read fanfic these days. :) I can find what I want and not have to go by the fandom's identification of characters. But not everyone feels the same.
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[personal profile] mautradutor 2014-05-14 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I am very confused with this secret. Do people who say this thing only read stories about the couple that they hate? Moreover, it can not be that they do not like characters like lovers, but really like their dynamic as friends?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Because people love the characters?

I read a lot of original fiction, so it's not that I'm hurting for original plots or settings OR for new characters to love -- but sometimes I ALSO just want to read about Hawkgirl coming to Thanksgiving with John Stewart's family, or Stewart and Wally having to solve a road trip mystery together, because I like those specific characters and their specific dynamics and want to have fun reading about them in different scenarios.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't understand the appeal of AUs either unless it's an AU that's set in canon but that changes some things. Otherwise... you aren't reading about the characters anymore. If you take Harry Potter out of his universe with magic and muggles and all of that world-building, he won't be Harry Potter. He'll be a character who looks like Harry Potter and who may have a similar personality, but all of the life-defining events that make Harry Potter who he is will be gone.

At that point, why not just write something original instead? Because you aren't writing the canon characters.
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[personal profile] skippydelicious 2014-05-15 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
He wouldn't be Harry Potter to you. Your feels are not everyones feels, and that is okay.

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I mostly feel this way when it comes to AUs. I kind of resort to them if I can't find anything written in the canon universe for my pairing. But I like to keep things as close to the story as possible. Some AU's can work with altering the world in a cool way were like this event gets turned to another event in a different world/timeline that I'll enjoy. But like if it's a straight up coffee shop/college/pornstar AU with no relevance to anything in canon I just don't feel like they're the same people.
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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2014-05-15 11:05 am (UTC)(link)
I believe that's the difference between badly-written or well-written AUs. The authors of the latter still manage to write the characters in a way that's believable and recognisably canon. Well, it works for me at least, but then...I love AUs. *g*

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
This is me for a pairing in a rpf fandom. I like their dynamic I guess?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I just read the first ever rpf that I seriously liked, only because it was entirely AU. I hardly even know the real life actors, which helped me forget my rpf aversion.

Here's the link, if anyone's interested:

The Social Network RPF: Forever Can Never Be Long Enough, Or The Earl Of Epsom Takes A Husband by torakowalski
(Regency AU, based on Georgette Heyer's novel A Marriage of Convience)

http://archiveofourown.org/works/342122
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[personal profile] littlestbirds 2014-05-15 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
In my experience, fanfic is shorter, cheaper, and easier to read because it usually doesn't expect much of you and you don't expect much of it. It's different! Finding and reading an original work takes time, money and energy, and they don't owe those to anyone just because they enjoy apocalypse road trip AUs...
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[personal profile] skippydelicious 2014-05-15 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I don't want similar characters, mom tried this when my puppy got ran over when I was 8, I want my puppy characters not just similar ones. The ones that I have the warm fuzzies for, the ones I already feel a connection with, the ones I wanted to go on adventures over to the old beech forest with. That is why I read au fanfics with characters I already know going on new adventures. I miss my puppy.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Surely because they want to read about those specific characters going on an adventure?

Anyway, I don't really get this secret. Are you talking about people who comment on AU ship fic saying that they read it despite disliking the ship, or are you just talking about people who seek out AU gen fic featuring two characters? Because if it's the former then they're probably just desperate after running out of gen fic to read (and are idiots who make unnecessary comments).

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Aside from the fact that it's usually way easier to find fanfiction that fits certain criteria than it is to find books that do? Maybe they just like AUs. I'm not sure why you care, unless you have some original fiction > fanfiction elitist hang up.
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[personal profile] ketita 2014-05-15 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I get you.
In my current fandom the headcanons/au ideas posted on tumblr have basically reached the point where they're "IMAGINE SOMEBODY WITH THE SAME NAME AS CHARACTER X DOING THINGS WITH NO CONNECTION TO CANON WHATSOEVER" and I don't get it at all.
I'm in fandom for these characters, not caricatures and blow-up dolls.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-15 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
or maybe they really do just like those two characters? just not as love interests (at least in the canon setting)?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Do you realize how hard it is to find original novels with specific character types? The reason I read AU fics is because there are certain characters that I like/relate to, and I want to read stories about them.

Relatively few books have really distinctive main characters, and it's hard to tell what the characters are really like before you read the books.

That said. If anyone has recs for novels with capable, girly heroines going on adventures, I would love to hear them. (lesbians optional but encouraged)

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
... okay, I'm a little sad that there are people who don't want to read books without knowing what the characters are like first. Surely that's part of the whole point of reading a book? Discovery and all that?

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[personal profile] riddian 2014-05-15 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
This secret confuses me greatly. How the hell did you get to "I only want two people going on adventures" from "I don't ship it but I want fic of these two characters going on adventures"? Themes don't even enter into it, they want to see those characters doing exciting stuff and interacting with each other without having sex. It's like you think shipping is the sole point of fanfiction and there's absolutely no worth to it otherwise. Yes, shipping is a big part of fanfiction, but there is more to it, I can assure you.

I'm even more puzzled by the implication that people must not even like the canon if they don't ship XYZ. Just... what. Did you angrily make this secret in response to something someone said? Are you just mad that someone doesn't like your OTP? If so, chill out, people are entitled to their preferences and non-shippy fic.

[personal profile] solticisekf 2014-05-15 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't say that I get this secret. Books and fics are different? One can read only books or only fics. Usually people read fics because they like something in a canon and want to explore it some more.

For example I don't like AUs where Harry Potter is upbeat and optimistic, however I'm fine with him being angstier or cleverer etc., because it doesn't interfere with what I personally enjoy in canon Harry. Another example is I like an element of secret identities in fic and books both, but in an Avengers fic I already like characters, while in a book I may not become involved in protagonist's struggles, so generally fics are a safer bet in this regard.