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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-24 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2699 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2699 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-05-24 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's a common enough opinion that Marianne/Colonel Brandon has a horrible ending. He's like Marianne's punishment for having dared to be different to the rest of society for a little while.

I'm not sure it's anti-feminist of Austen. More like bad writing, with a kind of pair-the-spares vibe to it. They really don't convince.

I feel the same way about Fanny/Edumnd in Mansfield Park. Fanny reads as a character that Austen thought she should write rather than one she actually enjoyed writing. Mary got all the best lines. Edmund would have been so much happier with her. Again, this is a common enough opinion. Disliking Fanny isn't a feminist statement. Fanny is just annoying, and brings out the worst in Edmund.

I think the fact that both these terrible relationships are so unconvincing says a lot about Austen's real actual love for her female characters.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-24 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I think Austen is on record as saying Fanny is 'much too good for her'. I think she rather disliked Fanny in the end.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
What "common knowledge" are you referring to because no one I know/have run into thinks that about Marianne/Colonel Brandon

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 03:22 am (UTC)(link)
A rich husband who loves AND respects you, who you come to love and respect because he's an honorable person who treats you (and everyone else he deals with) well is a pretty terrible punishment, I guess?

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? Given my own parents' loveless marriage in the 1970s and the decades of abuse and unhappiness that followed it, I WISH my mom had been 'punished' like that...