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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-24 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2699 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2699 ⌋

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Notes:

Bit early today, sorry!

Secrets Left to Post: 05 pages, 116 secrets from Secret Submission Post #386.
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Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
Well, for a while comic Bucky was quite certain Steve should have killed him, and was even kind of angry that he didn't. Lots of self-hatred there. He was a good guy, but he didn't think he DESERVED to be one of the good guys. He's a bit better now, but there's always an edge of desperation to what he does, like he's trying to prove himself over and over.

It's going to be more depressing even if Steve doesn't die, just due to the canon differences in Bucky, and in his and Steve's relationship. I don't know what it becomes other than a horror show if Steve does die. ;_;

it hurts me that they're so dense. I bet even the little girl that asked Stan how it felt to betray his best friend gets it now!
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Steve (casuals))

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-25 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ooo, I remember the bit where he wished for death and ran off, avoiding Steve. I felt so bad for Bucky. He went through so much, then he gets himself back and spends his time hating himself over things he couldn't control. I mean, I kind of get it, but it wasn't fair. So much in their lives isn't fair, but they deserve to be happy! Even you, Bucky. ESPECIALLY you, Bucky.

Right, because Bucky in the comics was a teen when he met Steve, and he was his partner, but in movie verse it's suggested they grew up together, had very little else and leaned on one another. Shit, this is going to be bad... But no matter what I'll just be pleased that they're together. I bet they will be too. (Eventually.)

Omg, that little girl. Lol. She was adorable but she was also WRONG. I'm sure she got it later. Let's hope so. Sebastian's face was precious when he heard that question.

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. While Bucky's movie backstory is a bit…confused…in the MCU (I thought it was canon that he was an orphan, but then tWS flashback talks about his "folks"), they're definitely a lot, LOT closer. Comic Bucky and Cap were friends, and long-time partners, but there was a power differential and Bucky was explicitly placed with Cap to be his partner. MCU Steve and Bucky are boyfriends soul mates best friends that see each other through times great and miserable. Encapsulated, their MCU relationship is summed up with the "little guy from Brooklyn too stupid to run away from a fight" line.

He also did an amazing job of explaining in simple terms, I thought. Nothing deep, just making her understand that Bucky doesn't know what he's doing.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Sam)

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-25 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
I think it was canon that they were both orphans but they ret-conned that for Cap 2? Though maybe I'm wrong about that, not sure... Now I want to go watch my Captain America special features and see if they mention it anywhere.

Comic Cap and Bucky were brought together by an outside force and didn't know each other before the war, but MCU Steve grew up with Bucky and so had a stronger connection with him. I see what you mean. Fighting beside someone has to create a strong bond, but Steve and Bucky already had an unbreakable bond that they brought with them to war, so they would've needed each other even more. Ugh. Ugh.

Yes, Sebastian is good at that. Now I want to go watch that interview again.
nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-05-25 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
From what I know, the orphan background as canon was established in the tie-in comic? Between that and the Red Skull apparently not being (conventionally) racist, I really need to go find and read it...
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Steve (eyes))

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-25 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Right, I've heard someone else mention that before too. I need to get my hand on these tie-in comics...

I read the tie-in for Winter Soldier but never came across the other one. The background information would be nice, if nothing else.

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I torrented all of the Cap tie-ins - I can see if I can find the links again, or upload them for you if you can't torrent?
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Cap (badass walk))

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-25 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, no, I don't want you to go to that trouble! I did search but I'm not sure what's what. It's called First Vengeance, right? Are there only four issues? I see those four and it says complete, but on the Marvel announcement it says that's an eight issue comic, so I'm confused. I need to switch to my computer, this would be faster, lol.

Maybe I can find it elsewhere.

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

(Anonymous) 2014-05-25 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
It wouldn't be a problem! The one with the backstory is called First Vengeance, yeah. I could also only find downloads with four issues, but it seems complete to me - the last page says "To be continued in Captain America: The First Avenger, in theaters 7/22/11." There's also Captain America & Thor - Avengers, in which the Cap part is about some random mission Steve and the Howling Commandos did, though it inexplicably lacks Bucky.
elaminator: (Captain America: TWS - Steve (shield))

Re: SA: FOUND IT! :D

[personal profile] elaminator 2014-05-25 06:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Alrighty, I've found both First Vengeance and Cap and Thor and am attempting to download them. It might take a little while for the Thor one because there aren't many seeders, but I imagine I'll get it. Thank you for the help! If you ever get a username message me so I can friend you; it's been great talking to you!

in which the Cap part is about some random mission Steve and the Howling Commandos did, though it inexplicably lacks Bucky

How would Bucky not be in that? Like Bucky would let Steve go anywhere alone after the shit they've been through. Odd... (Still, I will read it. Especially if it has Thor too.)

Just editing to say: GOT THEM. Though I'm having to download adobe reader to read issue 2. OMG bb!Bucky calling Steve an inspiration, and Steve's mother talking about how his heart is ten times the size of his body and awww. Aww.

Editing yet again to say: Awww the Commandos saving Bucky. There wasn't enough of him, but I did enjoy what they did with the Commandos and Carter. Steve and Howard were a nice touch, too. It could've been worse!
Edited 2014-05-25 19:42 (UTC)