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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-31 04:03 pm

[ SECRET POST #2706 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2706 ⌋

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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
And why is so hard for some fans to realize that for many authors, their works are extremely personal. (Like for Anne Rice, Interview with a Vampire was her way of working through the grief of losing her daughter to cancer. Claudia is supposed to symbolize her child Michelle. Louis is her. And Lestat was death. Lestat stole the innocent life that Claudia was supposed to have. She doesn't want others to corrupt what she sees is a personal story.)

If an author says, "Please, don't write fanfiction of my works," why can't the fans just honor that request? Why are some fans stomping their feet like a spoiled brat who has been denied the use of someone else's toy?
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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-05-31 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
If you share something with other people, those other people will interpret it in ways that match their own personal experience. If Lestat means death to Anne Rice, then people who read Interview and see that parallel are likely to write about what death means to them. That's not taking something away, because the original novel is not modified in any way. That's simply part of the process of interpretation, and if something is truly personal to you such that you don't want other people interpreting it, you probably shouldn't share it with others.
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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

[personal profile] sdk 2014-05-31 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this. Agree wholeheartedly.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes. She marketed her grief, and sold the film rights to her grief, so pardon me if I blow small raspberries at the "respect her grief."

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Oh go eat some poison dicks

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-06-01 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
You really can't see how somebody might take a moment that's very personal to them and use a creative outlet to get it out of themselves? And just because they then want to share that work that lessens their grief? I mean, I see fanworks as a matter of course and what's gonna happen if you make something popular and don't think you should have a bug up your butt about it, but you aren't talking about that. You are disrespecting that woman's very real feelings over the death of her child. And for that you can die with those poison dicks stuck in your throat as befits a piece of worthless dogshit.

Re: Oh go eat some poison dicks

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems a little extreme, don't you think?

I would've just wished the same upon anon if I cared enough (as in 'hope someone disrespects your very real feelings over your loss') but death by poison dick in the mouth just leaves a rather bad taste, y'know?
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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

[personal profile] sdk 2014-05-31 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
How does someone writing Interview with a Vampire fanfic negate Anne Rice's feelings about her own work? Not dismissing her experiences but...if you don't want the public to react/engage/criticize/praise/be inspired by and yes, potentially create fan works based on your work, then don't release it to the public.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, maybe shouldn't publish it for millions of poeple to read if it is so personal.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah. If you're sharing it with the world, it's not personal anymore. Reading involves just more than absorbing the text. Interpretation, getting ideas, exploring new possibilities within the realm of the story are all part of reading. So if you don't want that to happen, don't share it with people. A story never belongs to just the author, aside from certain rights like the ability to make a profit from it. Stories belong to everyone.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering that what she wrote in her later books was basically AU!Bible fanfiction, she really doesn't have a lot of ground to complain about fanfiction, not even if that first book was some sort of therapy.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-05-31 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah but after that when she kept going on making Lestat into a Mary Sue then went on writing Bible fanfiction, all respect she could have gathered just flew out of the window.
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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-05-31 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
idk man, if it's that "personal" you probably shouldn't publish it for others to read. It kinda comes across to me as whiny-bratty when authors basically say "I want you to read my works and pay me money for them, but I don't want you to enjoy them in any meaningful way beyond that".

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Why can't the fans just honor that request?

I wonder this too. No matter the reason from the author, if they don't want fanfiction written based on their works, then just don't fucking write it? It's called respect, and it's sad that so many people seem to have a lack of it. :/

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
I generally agree with this too... but Anne Rice is a poor example :P
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Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-06-01 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's an unreasonable request.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 10:25 am (UTC)(link)
In Anne Rice's case, because there's a difference in just asking people not to do fandom things, sendind a lawyer to ask to cease and desist, and fucking come down on fandom screeching and spouting death threats. When an author is batshit insane and acts like an asshole, they lose all honor and respect.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 12:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe if they simply said or wrote "I don't like fanfiction," or "Please don't write fanfic of my works," maybe I could respect that. However, the way people like Anne Rice (with C&D letters - she's pretty much the cause of the 'banned author's/media' list on fanfic.net) or Diana Galbadon (equating fanfic to pedophillia and then having one of her minions out a cancer patient's personal info), makes me go "Nope. Kiss my ass bitch."

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Because you can't share something with the whole world and then dictate how people react to it. It's not rational, nor is it feasible, and if a person tries to do this, well of course they get mocked for it.

I don't read or write any fanfiction based on GRRM's or Anne Rice's works, so nobody is denying me anything. And you know what? I still think they're silly for trying to police their readers' reactions to works they voluntarily published and profited* from.


* Yeah, that's another thing. If Claudia and the whole novel was such a sacred grieving process, Anne Rice has made a very lucrative career from it, yet somehow that's not corrupting its sanctity while fanfiction is? Nah, not buying it.

Re: A rant on authors hating fan fiction

(Anonymous) 2014-06-01 03:45 am (UTC)(link)
We recognize that some authors have made such requests. However, given that they're stupid-ass requests, we've elected to ignore them.