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⌈ Secret Post #2707 ⌋

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What typical fandom generalities or stereotypes do you read about all the time, but just don't apply to your fandom(s)?

For example,

"fandom is only interested in stories about young guys, preferably fucking each other" - not in my fandom. The two biggest fandom darlings are female, the m/m ship written most often is two guys in their 50s/60s, and people are just as interested in writing femslash as slash.

"a/b/o is taking over fandom" - not in my fandom. Never seen a single instance of it.

"fans of different OTPs don't mix" - not in my fandom, at least, not my part of it. Everyone talks to and encourages everyone else, and almost everyone has tried writing a mix of pairings, even if they favour some more than others.

What doesn't apply to your fandom?

"Why no het?" There, uh, are no regular female characters in my fandom, so all het shipping would be weird and sort of pointless. (Yes I would be ashamed, but it's old!)

What typical fandom generalities or stereotypes do you read about all the time, but you just don't think apply to your fandom(s)?

Are you trying to say that every generality and stereotype applies to every fandom, regardless whether people have since instances of it?

No. I am trying to say that every fandom says "Well we totally don't have ___________," when they totally do.

Re: Not in my fandom

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-01 21:53 (UTC) - Expand

Rapey a/b/o. It just doesn't happen in my fandoms. When there's a/b/o, consent issues are always taken into consideration. (Notably, Lewis).

"There's infinitely more shippy fic than there is gen" still doesn't apply to Elementary. Even though I'm no longer sure if I'm a part of this fandom.

If you don't mind, I'm curious what your fandom is. I've yet to read any a/b/o that actually deals with consent issues, instead usually handwaving it all.

Well, as I said, I mostly meant Lewis; my other fandoms aren't mainstream enough to have any omegaverse.

I was about to agree with dreemyweird because most a/b/o fic in Teen Wolf deals with consent issues and isn't rapey at all. I don't read it in other fandoms, though, and don't know that I would. Teen Wolf has these terms in the canon anyway, and authors like to explore the differences and subvert the tropes.

Re: Not in my fandom

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-02 01:04 (UTC) - Expand

of all things, Hannibal is pretty good about a/b/o, from what I've seen. Most MCU is, too (I've seen like two or so Loki-centric fics that were the usual drivel, but the ones centering around, say, Tony or Clint are usually pretty good about consent issues and exploring them)

I keep seeing it being attributed to thirteen year old girls in the media. As much as I hate Twilight, I beg to differ; most Twilight fans I know are well over the age of thirteen, some of them in their fifties and sixties. It's really not the tween series everyone seems to think it is. (Though there are certainly tween fans. Who were probably traumatized by the last book.)

And that is the only time you'll ever see me (sort of) defend the books. O_o

Tbh I'm not surprised. But it probably means that the quality is worse than if it would be if it were just thirteen-year-olds. When people in their fifties and sixties go for a love story about vampires, this means that it is a horribly tired, cliche love story about vampires pushing all the tropey buttons that were popular like in the eighties.

I find that fandoms based on bad, tropey canon sources with fifty- to sixty-year-old fans are just like their analogues for teenagers, except the teenagers in question are from the eighties, and so are there tastes.

What?

A) what do you mean by 'tropey buttons that were popular like in the eighties'? What's specific about the eighties?

B) I have nothing to do with Twilight, but I'm a fanfic writer in my fifties and my stories/tastes have nothing to do with the eighties. I've lived a lot since then; I don't even remember the effing eighties.

Re: Twilight's not really my fandom, but...

dreemyweird - 2014-06-02 12:52 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Twilight's not really my fandom, but...

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-02 21:13 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Twilight's not really my fandom, but...

dreemyweird - 2014-06-03 09:34 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Twilight's not really my fandom, but...

(Anonymous) - 2014-06-03 23:53 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Twilight's not really my fandom, but...

dreemyweird - 2014-06-04 19:49 (UTC) - Expand

and this was supposed to be *their tastes, oh, well. I finally made this mistake. Who'd have thought.

Very little a/b/o in my current fandom. That pleases me as while I don't hate it, it's definitely not my kink.

Yesterday I was trying to read a really well written fic in another fandom, but it was a/b/o, and I had to give up eventually even though the other aspects were top notch. If you were into a/b/o, it would have been perfect as it was hitting every kink I don't have squarely on the nose.

Seven Moons by ladyflowdi Sherlock/John fantasy medieval AU
http://archiveofourown.org/works/713274/chapters/1319599

Fridging the female characters doesn't really happen in my fandom either. I am so pleased. I think the worst fandom I was ever in for that was Harry Potter. Tonks got a lot of abuse, even more than Irene Adler in Sherlock.

The slash in my fandom mostly has guys over 30+ fucking. This has been true of most of my fandoms, actually. I love slash, and while it predominates in my fandom, mostly not with the younger men.

All mine don't have any a/b/o.
Feels good man.

No a/b/o brofist.

Re: Not in my fandom

comradesmiler - 2014-06-01 22:54 (UTC) - Expand

Yeah there's no a/b/o fic in mine either, just a couple of prompts that have gone unfilled indefinitely, from the looks of it.

There's also no "why not more het/femmeslash/gen?!" because there's actually a shitton of gen. It's what 90% of the fandom writes, easily. But on the downside, there are almost no female characters, so het is always Hot Protagonist/Mary Sue and no one is exactly clamouring for more of that, and I have no idea how femmeslash would even happen. Time travel?

Which is weird, because in my previous fandoms het was either dominant (Final Fantasy) or extremely prevalent (FMA) and in my first fandom (BSSM) it was the opposite of this one: all femmeslash, all the time, because there are like three boys.

There's no ABO in my fandom, but I don't think it's that unusual. There isn't a lot of ABO in most manga fandoms. Seems to be mostly a live action TV/movies thing.

"ship wars are everywhere"
not in my fandom! Some people came in and tried to stir shit up and the fandom at large rolled their eyes and moved along. I was so proud. Not saying it won't happen later, if our fandom gets bigger, but it was nice this time.

This. I haven't seen any ship wars in tiny fandoms (most of mine are). No1 currz. Everyone just ships and lets ship. The only instance of ship-hostility I can remember in, say, Rivers of London was that one passive aggressive comment left on a popular slash fanfic.

"The two biggest fandom darlings are female, the m/m ship written most often is two guys in their 50s/60s, and people are just as interested in writing femslash as slash.

Well, now you've got me curious. Which fandom is this?

Battlestar Galactica, at least the LJ side of it. It's fairly quiet these days, but it's been a lovely fandom in the years I've been in it.

For your fandom in particular, I'm not surprised you aren't seeing a/b/o if your fandom isn't big on young m/m pairings. A/b/o is almost exclusively m/m pairings.

"Young guys"--how young is 'young?' The leads in my fandom are now all early 30's-40, and at least one who gets a fair amount of attention is around 50. (They are however all guys, and most of the fandom does prefer them fucking each other, alas.)

A/B/O--I think I've seen this on occasion, but it doesn't seem excessively popular, unless I'm just hanging out in all the wrong fandom spaces.

"Housewives in their 40s" is a stereotype I've seen make the rounds that doesn't appear to apply all that well to my fandom (though it does apply to me personally XD) Most of my fellow fans seem to be teenagers and 20-somethings.

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