[ SECRET POST #2708 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2708 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Degrassi Junior High/Degrassi High and Saved By The Bell]


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03.
[The Cinema Snob]

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04.
[Phil Robertson from Duck Dynasty]


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05.
[Silicon Valley]


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06.
[Xavier Dolan]


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07.
[Pacific Rim]


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08.
[Sailor Moon]


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09.
[Iwan Rheon]


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10.
[Love Stage!!]


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11.
[The Losers (movie)]


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12.
[K-pop]










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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Uh. Homosexualty wasn't even mentioned in the bible until, what? 1950s?

It was an idolatry thing, IIRc, hence why the ever-famous Leviticus verse is right smack dab in the middle of other mentions of idolatry. Basically, "Don't sleep together as part of some kind of ritual to a heathen god."

[(Anonymous)]

That and don't rape boys.

TW: rape

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty much. It's like people using S&G to show homosexuality is bad. GUYS, IT WASN'T BECAUSE THEY LIKED THE SAME SEX, IT WAS KIND OF HOW THEY RAPED EVERYONE WHO CAME THROUGH TOWN.

Re: TW: rape

[diet_poison]

this

[(Anonymous)]

Not until the 1950s? Was Leviticus not part of the Bible before then?

[(Anonymous)]

It was. But the words homosexuality and homosexual were not put into the Bible until the 1950s or so. Anyone who says otherwise needs to share what they're smoking or look into the history.

Before then, it was about lying in the same bed, but the context is "in idolatry" as evidenced by the verses around it--all talking about gods from other religions and rituals dedicated to them.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, right. And even now, those words are only in the most iffy of translations. I didn't realize from your original comment that you meant the specific words.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, a lot of people have translations that directly say homosexuality, but then ignore what it's really saying which is... "Don't have ritualistic sex with other men in idolatry."

As has been pointed out, it's in the middle of a bunch of laws on idolatry, then suddenly sex, back to idolatry. Unless someone got majorly sidetracked, context matters.

[(Anonymous)]

I have never seen any translation say "don't have gay sex in rituals." The quote doesn't say anything about rituals and idolatry.

And you're suspicious because at one point, the Bible is a bit ADHD? It's kind of like that the entire way through the book. It wasn't Shakespeare writing this thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Er... if you mean the word "homosexuality", then maybe you'd be correct, but the concept's been in the Bible since at least the King James version, which was completed in the early 1600s. So this isn't a new concept.

Also, the idolatry theory is a bit weak. Yes, Leviticus 20 begins with discussion of idolatry, but verses 10-21 are about the types of sex and sexual relationships which are forbidden.

[(Anonymous)]

And then it goes on to end with idolatry in the same area. Like, literally two verses later. So the fact it's bookended with idolatry is telling, unless the writers suddenly got majorly sidetracked.

[(Anonymous)]

I could totally get sidetracked like that. "Hrm, idolatry, idolatry, idolatry...you know what, let's talk about SEX! Hrm, idolatry, idolatry...yep, that'll about do it."

[(Anonymous)]

This is a ridiculous claim.

[(Anonymous)]

Have you... read much of the Bible? Because it's a collection of writings put together by committee, so yes, sometimes it reads like "the writers got majorly sidetracked". So having passages about idolatry near the passages that are very clearly about sex doesn't mean they're ONLY talking about no [specific types of sex] in a temple.

[(Anonymous)]

Gay sex has been in the Bible since the old testament. Are you referring to the word "homosexuality"? Well, no. English. Modern translation. etc. but it blatantly refers to male/male sex, and blatantly says that is a bad thing.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it says ritualistic sex between two men is a bad thing. It also, in other passages, says temple prostitution is a bad thing.

It does not say gay sex is bad, that is poor translation. Keep justifying your homophobia.

[(Anonymous)]

What are you talking about? I'm gay. And I'm from a religious household, though thankfully escaped religion long ago. I've learned very, very well what the Bible has to say about gay things, thank you.

It DOES say gay sex is a bad thing. Because the Bible SAYS A LOT OF CRAZY SHIT. Why can't we just admit that?

[(Anonymous)]

(Because people feel better if they can retcon the Bible to purge it of all the anti-gay nonsense.)