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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-03 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #2709 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2709 ⌋

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Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
They don't. But some, not all, but some in the #yestoallwomen movement want you believe in that because it furthers their own agenda. Now what that agenda is, I haven't any idea but they are going about it like they do have agenda because the hate toward males, all males, children included is unsettling. Like if they could eliminate the Y chromosome, they would.



Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Do you not think that there are any men who hate women, or who at least think lesser of them?

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh no I'm sure there are men who hate women out there, just like there's probably women who hate men. Their are some very black hearted people out there. I'm not trying to say they don't at all. I know a lot of men who genuinely believe women are lesser people and it boggles my mind.

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
SORRY IM A DIFFFERENT ANON THEN THE ONE YOUR REPLIED TO I forgot to write that whoops

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. They're men who hate women. But from what I took from OP is that she is asking as a whole gender. Like why do all those who have the XY chromosome hate everyone of the XX chromosome? Which they don't. Yes, there men who hate women in a nightmarish way. As to why that is so? That's is their own fucked up problems with their own fucked up brains.

But I hate this all or nothing movement. That if you say, "Well, not all men are like that." You are automatically labeled a misogynist. Fuck that. I hate that all or nothing movement. It's poison to any progress. It sets up an "us vs. them" mentality that will only set us back. I want people to see me as an individual. So, I refuse to put people in a group.

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with this. It's why I don't like to talk about it.

At the same time I am a victim of sexist crimes from those nasty men out there so I completely understand why people are having the mentality they are. If I talked about some of the trauma I went through and the response I got was "well I'm not like that" (which has happened to me several times) it starts to get old because OF COURSE you don't mean that person it's not about them.

I guess what I'm saying is that I am really not sure where I stand on the whole thing because both sides have good and bad points.

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 05:51 am (UTC)(link)
it's not really carrying judgment on literally every man ever though. when people say things like that, it's more like "I hate the institution of men that makes this so common." I get that it's like, "why don't they say it that way then?" but it's such an emotionally charged issue that neutral responses are difficult or unwanted. basically it has nothing to do with individuals and more about culture.

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-05 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
But it doesn't matter that it's not all men. What matters is how so many women are hurt. It's about women and what can be done to protect them from the men who do hate and hurt them.

Re: Why

(Anonymous) 2014-06-04 03:58 am (UTC)(link)
Naahhhhh. I used to know a few people who seriously and honestly wished they could kill all men, and I haven't seen anything like them coming from #YesAllWomen. Those people I knew were creepy, a Twitter hashtag is not.

The people using the hashtag do have an "agenda." Their agenda is to raise visibility of the shit women routinely go through at the hands of society. To point out that "not all men" is true but dodges the point spectacularly, and that women are usually not the ones saying or implying "all men" in the first place. To stand up and say that this is a legitimate problem we as a socitey have and it shouldn't be ignored. To let people know that Elliot Rodgers did not come out of a vacuum.

hth