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[ SECRET POST #2710 ]

⌈ Secret Post #2710 ⌋

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08. http://i.imgur.com/VGe5flI.png

To simply things, it hasn't been called MI6 since shortly after the war.

It's SIS these days.

/thread

Might be relevant if they're writing historical shit, though.

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ill_omened - 2014-06-05 17:32 (UTC) - Expand

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ariakas - 2014-06-05 17:51 (UTC) - Expand

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ill_omened - 2014-06-05 19:44 (UTC) - Expand

M16 is the gun, I think people get confused because of that?

So... what is the point of this secret? Whether it's Mi6 or M16? Or if the MI6 is a real thing? Or if an organisation called M16 exists? I'm confused.

What does this even mean?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M16_rifle

you're welcome

Maybe I am the one missing your point; MI 6 stands for Military Intelligence 6 (you know, just like MI 5?)

What is your problem? I don't even understand what your secret is about...

*totally confused by your secret* or is it simply lack of proper briefing on British intelligence agencies naming conventions? In which case, I recommend wikipedia.org and five minutes to educate yourself. It will take a lot less time than posting a secret on this comm and be more appropriate, IMHO.

Ooops, I see dethtoll just posted a link to wikipedia which might help in case your secret was about your confusing the gun (M16) with the secret intelligence agency name (MI6).

I had not even considered that possibility. Such a level of ignorance had not even crossed my mind, which demonstrates a sad lack of imagination on my part, I suppose! So sorry!

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(Anonymous) - 2014-06-04 23:31 (UTC) - Expand

They're saying that they keep reading things where people write "M-16" rather than "MI-6."

I assure you that the M16 still exists, though its military functions have largely been replaced by the various iterations of the M4.

Ha, is this a motorway joke? *not British*

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People are focusing on telling the OP that both M16 and MI6 exist and whatnot but no one is commenting on the fact that apparently there is a lot of fic out there where people confuse get the MI6's name wrong o.O

Because that's super hard to believe. Maybe the authors meant the weapon? Idk, links?

...Honestly, if people really do that a lot, it's kind of hilarious.

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So... that was what the secret was about? People using the wrong name, and OP kept seeing it so often that they thought M16 as an organisation was actually a thing instead of a really common typo? I was confused, but if that was the point, I think I get it now.

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hiyami - 2014-06-06 17:38 (UTC) - Expand

If you mean the secret service, yes the MI6 exists.

Are we talking about the gun here? I'm confused.

I was so confused until I realized the black script was an excerpt. And yes they're using it wrong.

MI6 (British Military Intelligence: Liaison with Secret Intelligence Service and Foreign Office), MI16 (British Military Intelligence: Scientific Intelligence), and M16 (which could be a rifle, a rocket, a mine, a motorway, or a postcode).

From Wikipedia:
MI1 Codes and cyphers. Later merged with other code-breaking agencies and became Government Code and Cypher School (now known as Government Communications Headquarters).
MI2 Information on Middle and Far East, Scandinavia, USA, USSR, Central and South America.
MI3 Information on Eastern Europe and the Baltic Provinces (plus USSR, Eastern Europe and Scandinavia after Summer 1941).
MI4 Geographical section—maps (transferred to Military Operations in April 1940).
MI5 Counterintelligence.
MI6 Liaison with Secret Intelligence Service and Foreign Office.
MI7 Press and propaganda (transferred to Ministry of Information in May 1940).
MI8 Signals interception and communications security.
MI9 Escaped British PoW debriefing, escape and evasion (also: enemy PoW interrogation until 1941).
MI10 Technical Intelligence worldwide.
MI11 Military Security.
MI12 Liaison with censorship organisations in Ministry of Information, military censorship.
MI13 Not used (except in fiction e.g. MI-13, The Scarifyers).
MI14 Germany and German-occupied territories (aerial photography until Spring 1943).
MI15 Aerial photography. In the Spring of 1943, aerial photography moved to the Air Ministry and MI15 became air defence intelligence.
MI16 Scientific Intelligence (formed 1945).[5]
MI17 Secretariat for Director of Military Intelligence from April 1943.
MI18 Used only in fiction.
MI19 Enemy prisoner of war interrogation (formed from MI9 in December 1941).

Two MI sections remain in existence today. MI5 and MI6, remain in colloquial use in the United Kingdom and elsewhere to refer to the Security Service and the Secret Intelligence Service, although neither organisation has been officially titled as such since the late 1920s. Both MI5 and MI6 are also depicted in the logos of the respective organisations and are often used to refer to both departments by the government and media.

In America, M16 is the name of a high powered firearm.

Seeing that fic snippet in that secret... well it made me go to ... rather uncomfortable porny places.

Oops, sorry for the confusingly worded/constructed secret! Thanks to the folks who clarified what I meant: yes, I have seen more than just a few fics where people spoke of "M16" as the British secret service organization, and I was surprised/puzzled because I (like other commenters) didn't figure that as a misconception that people would have.

I've seen it in both Skyfall and BBC Sherlock fic; I didn't note the fic that this particular snippet was from (it was a Sherlock one), but here are some randomly googled links to prove I'm not completely crazy:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/1473100
http://archiveofourown.org/works/819088
http://archiveofourown.org/works/689575
http://archiveofourown.org/works/624678
http://archiveofourown.org/works/622110