[ SECRET POST #2717 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2717 ⌋

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Notes:

Late day at work, sorry!

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It wasn't a matter of survival, she was bought off by Cersei.

[fauxkaren]

I'm sure if she'd refused Cersei, Cersei would have been like "yeah, that's cool! No big!"

lmao. Shae was in a bad position and she did what was best for her.

Tyrion knew she was a prostitute. It's not her fault that Tyrion was deluded enough to think that she really loved him.

[diet_poison]

So being a prostitute means you're unable to fall in love with anyone?

[fauxkaren]

Did I say that?

It's just really obvious in the books that Shae is only there for the $$$$ and position. And Tyrion convinces himself that it's ~more than that~, except lmao nope. It's not. And when Shae has an opportunity to look out for herself, she doesn't have any qualms about betraying him.

[(Anonymous)]

did this go down in the show or only in the books? I stopped watching at the end of last season but it was very clear that Shae loved him in the show.

[fauxkaren]

Only in the books.

The show changed the Tyrion and Shae relationship.

[(Anonymous)]

The books. She does love him in the show and she still testified against him. In the books, she was only with him for money and power.

[diet_poison]

You kind of implied it with "she was a prostitute, it's not her fault Tyrion loved her".

Anyway, it wasn't that obvious to me in the books, though I'm not floored it ended up being the case, either. And then you start to go off on the whole defending Shae thing and I have no dog in that race; I only made the comment because I kind of took issue with the prostitute remark

[fauxkaren]

I still don't see how I implied that at all, but ok.

[(Anonymous)]

No: but it doesn't oblige you to either. The fact that Tyrion loved Shae did not somehow require her to reciprocate the emotion. What Tyrion forgot was that their whole relationship was a transaction: Shae didn't owe Tyrion anything - and certainly not a demonstration of loyalty which could easily have cost her her life.

[diet_poison]

No of course it doesn't; it just doesn't preclude the possibility of love. Obviously Shae didn't love Tyrion, but Tyrion's thought process should have been "I should be careful because it's likely any woman I pay for sex [or hell, any woman who sleeps with me at all] will want my money because I am rich", not "she's a prostitute, therefore it's impossible for her to love me".

[(Anonymous)]

We don't know what Cersei would have done, just what she did.

[fauxkaren]

No, but I mean... looking at her pattern of behavior, you can guess that Cersei wouldn't have been chill about Shae not testifying against Tyrion.