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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-11 07:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #2717 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2717 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
So if she tries to kill him, it's doing what she must to survive, but if he tries to kill her, it's unforgivable?

I've never read the books, but this confuses me.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
It's because he has a penis
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-06-11 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
She didn't TRY to kill him. She testified against Tyrion in order to save her own skin.

Tyrion killed Shae because he was pissed off that the woman he'd be paying to have sex with him didn't love him.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
no, because she testified against him about killing joffrey and then had sex with his father
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-06-11 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, but WHY did that anger Tyrion so much?

It was because he'd deluded himself into believing that Shae actually loved him and then when she did that, it was obvious to him that she was just there for the money. And that was what made him mad and why he killed her.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-12 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
all of this makes me sad. I haven't read that far yet (don't worry, I resigned myself a long time ago to being spoiled, which is why I still read these threads) but I adore Tyrion, and this just sounds awful :/

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
When you do read it, I don't think you will necessarily see his actions the way fauxkaren has done -- Tyrion suffers a series of betrayals, he finds Shae in his father's bed after she has testified against him and immediately after Jaime has confessed to him that his (Tyrion's) wife hadn't been a prostitute. He's already in a very dark place, it takes him completely by surprise, and his reaction is a crime of passion.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention, he'd been horribly slandered in court (in front of a huge room of people, not just by Shae, by MANY witnesses that Cersei called), convicted of a crime he didn't commit, and basically had his good actions rewarded with humiliation, derision, and condemnation. He was in a bad, bad place.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 02:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, thank you above anons. Tyrion's no saint, but christ I am sick of this poor Shae nonsense. She probably didn't deserve to die, and yeah-- she had no choice. But I really don't think anyone twisted her arm about betraying Tyrion. She happily testified against him and moved onto his dad with a skip in her step, and it was TOO MUCH for one guy to handle. That it was her job and money and power her goal doesn't make her any less of an awful human being. Tyrion's life is over, everyone has lied to him, everyone hates him. He deluded himself into believing Shae loved him, and that's fucking pitiable. It's sad, you guys. He's not just some entitled misogynist, he's a heartbroken cast-off of the Lannister's.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention that Tyrion has major issues with his father and considering the whole issue with the girl who apparently did love him when he was young but Tywin made him think was just a prostitute that Jaime hired...well, it wasn't "just" about being confronted with the fact that Shae didn't love him.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-11 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
More like she testified agains him because she wanted power and money.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-06-11 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well yeah. That too. Because that's why she was with Tyrion in the first place. She didn't want to lose that. But also angering Cersei by NOT testifying would probably have been bad news for her.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
So it's just an incidental thing if her testimony gets Tyrion executed, right? She's just doing what she has to. No big.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-06-12 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Eh. Girl is looking out for herself. She didn't like actively necessarily want to hurt Tyrion... but the possibility of Tyrion being executed based on her testimony wasn't going to stop her from doing something that would protect herself.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 09:40 am (UTC)(link)
She is not obligated to save anybody's life at the expense of her own.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-12 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Not getting other people killed it's like common courtesy. But whatever. She's a saint and did nothing wrong.
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[personal profile] ziltoidianrapture 2014-06-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Their situations are completely different, though. Shae testified against Tyrion because that was probably her only way to get out of a bad situation. Tyrion killed Shae because he wanted revenge.

One of these things is not like the other!