[ SECRET POST #2721 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2721 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

06. http://i.imgur.com/frLHgVL.png

[(Anonymous)]

I actually don't ship either of them, and Labyrinth is my favorite movie. I think the only relationship I liked from that movie was the friendship between Sarah and Hoggle.

Will you ship Lydia and Beetlejuice in the sequel, if they go there?

http://www.rollingstone.com/movies/news/michael-keaton-confirms-beetlejuice-2-talks-with-director-tim-burton-20140214

[mekkio]

Never mind the age difference was really creepy. The girls were young teens, not even barely legal, and the men were decades, or perhaps in the case of Jareth, hundreds of years older. I thought that was creepy even when I saw it as a kid.

[(Anonymous)]

Get you, feel you, like you, anon. I hate ships like these.

[visp]

Well, Jareth was a sexy bastard and there really wasn't anyone else to ship him with, so I could understand that one (although no, obviously, they weren't supposed to end up together). Beetlejuice... meh, I just don't get why people feel the need to ship that guy romantically with anyone.

Although, if you must, how about the stepmom? Or her decorator? I can see a Beetlejuice/Decorator Guy relationship working out... something about each appreciating the other's artistic style.

[fingalsanteater]

Omfg. Thanks. Now I ship Beetlejuice/Otho.

[sparklywalls]

For years I didn't even know shipping Beetlejuice/Lydia was a thing...mostly because the cartoon series kind of corrupted that part of the film so little-kid-me thought they'd be best buddies at best.

It sure was interesting returning to that film when I was older and realising the film was a whole different ball game to the kid-friendly cartoon series! Having said that, in either canon those worms scared the shit out of me.

[(Anonymous)]

Hey, people take out of movies and stories what they want to take. Actually, younger you had a very good point, and I think in many cases it was what was intended.

It's just crazies like me are common on the Internet.

(For me, animated BJ/Lydia was my first OTP ever at the tender age of 11. Jareth/Sarah was just a logical followup when I saw "Labyrinth" for the first time when I was 14. I STILL have a thing for older, "not stereotypically handsome" men, now that I'm in my 30's.)

[kallanda_lee]

I never shipped Lydia/Beetlejuice, and could only see Jareth/Sarah after I myself was an adult...so, I don't think it' that strange. Then again,I'm not really into older men.

[(Anonymous)]

Does shipping them post-movie when the girls have grown up count? Because yeah, shipping them at the in-movie ages is pretty creepy IMO.

Admittedly for me the skeevy factor for Beetlejuice is so high that I just plain can't ship him with Lydia at ANY age. Jareth isn't human and never was, so I tend to give him a bit of a pass, given that he legitimately wouldn't understand the age-difference creepiness.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I definitely see where the shippers are coming from, and I definitely think there's a romantic/sexual element to both of their dynamics...but I also find it creepy and uncomfortable, and thought the point of those romantic/sexual elements was to be creepy and uncomfortable.

[hands4healing]

Animated Lydia/Beetlejuice still kind of skeeved me, but I liked their relationship as friends.

Jareth/Sarah is fun when Sarah's older, but during movie-canon, reminds me of too many other pairings that creep me out.

[(Anonymous)]

I only ever shipped Beetlejuice/Lydia in their animated incarnation. Movieverse, noooo thank you.

[solticisekf]

I love Labirinth, yay at the secret! Although I didn't catch it until recently, and found many parts to be boring. Most fics I've read focus on older Sarah, actually.

I didn't find Beetlejui to be shippy at all.

I'm glad you're not conflicted on this, OP.

Fandom is a subculture, and it used to be more of one.

[(Anonymous)]

Here's the thing: you could safely take your interpretation and talk about it to just about anybody. Friends. Parents. Teachers. Strangers. You name it, they'd probably be reassured by the message you got out of those stories.

That's not the case for people who like Jareth/Sarah. They had to seek out like-minded people to have an actual "this thing appeals to me a lot" conversation, without being immediately derailed by concern trolling and rejection.

[(Anonymous)]

OP

I'm not sure I'd ship it if the girls were older, just because of them both being such NOTP's since childhood, I'm not sure I can let go of the squick factor even without the age-gap. But for anyone who does ship 'em, I'm not going to burn you at the stake. Ship and let ship.

(Also Otho/Beetlejuice sounds amazing.)

[nightscale]

I ship Jareth/Sarah but I completely get why someone would find it creepy, I just have a bit of a thing for age gaps in fiction.

[applemagpie]

Personally I think finding these pairings romantic and non-creepy is doing it wrong, OP

[(Anonymous)]

I understood Jareth/Sarah a bit more than Beetlejuice/Lydia. Possibly on the shallow end because Jareth was David Bowie and Beetlejuice had no sense of hygiene, but in a different sense because Jareth was a Fae, with all the child-stealing, glamour-wearing, alien thought processes that went with it, whereas Beetlejuice was a ghost and presumably once human, which made his skeeve-factor much higher. Also, because he generally acted way pervier (the wedding scene), whereas Jareth was more subtle and -while intimidating and playing by exact words- also generally sticking to what was actually asked of him.

Possibly it should be the other way around, as Beetlejuice is a more obvious and hopefully avoidable threat, while Jareth is more insidious. But Jareth always felt more like a test of strength and will rather than a threat to safety and freedom, unlike Beetlejuice.

Also, I just like the Fae. Pervy ghosts with an utter lack of personal hygiene just don't have the same mystique.

[tabaqui]

Who would ship anyone with Beetlejuice? The character is creepy and horrifying to look at, and the actor is pure meh to me (yes, even as Batman).

[(Anonymous)]

I think the shipping with Beetlejuice and Lydia comes most from the /cartoon/ where they had a completely different way of interacting which was nothing like the movie.

[(Anonymous)]

I rather thought that Beetlejuice was playing on the creep factor because that's a function of what he is, and we were supposed to be creeped out by him/his behavior. I could go for a Beetlejuice/Lydia pairing only after she's grown and only if it's a Domme/sub sort of relationship.

I always felt that Jareth had a sort of parasitic relationship with the real world and that he could only exist if real-worlders gave their consent and/or turned a blind eye to his doings. Sara seemed to be a girl on the cusp of becoming a woman, and romantic attention from a man is sometimes very tempting when one is that age (assuming heterosexuality, of course).

Tl;dr Yes those ships were creepy, they were supposed to be creepy, that's what a lot of fans like about them.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of it with Jareth is that, as much as he is the antagonist, that's... Also what Sarah wanted. Her own adventure with an antagonist and everything. He literally was her villain because she wanted on, and he was hopelessly in love and thought it would, well, make her happy. But in the end, he is a fae and doesn't understand human emotions all of the time.

Recall that he still watches on in the end, and I think he was somewhat satisfied with her happiness in the end because she did finally decide what it was she actually wanted.

[otakugal15]

I ship Jareth/Sarah and I ship cartoon Beetlejuice/Lydia. Of course, both pairs are aged up.

*shrug*

[(Anonymous)]

If it makes you feel any better, OP, I was the same. All I remember from Labyrinth from seeing it when I was little was that it had a "scary" villain. When I saw it again in high school, I was all over the Jareth/Sarah, albeit future older and legal Sarah, not movie-Sarah. (Fics with teen Sarah/Jareth still creep me out.)

And IA with everyone else that that Lydia/Beetlejuice shipping is heavily influenced by the cartoon and BJ being her BFF in that. I don't think I've run into anyone online shipping them just from the movie. (I didn't really remember the cartoon, so I was *really* confused when I first ran across BJ/Lydia fanart until I figured it out)

I think with both of these you have the mystical creature/human aspect going for it. I find large age differences creepy for human/human ships, but not so much if there's a fantastical species difference.