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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-19 06:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #2725 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2725 ⌋

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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
My problem with Twilight is that not only is Bella completely useless (but somehow perfect), but that her relationship with Edward is full-on abusive. And it's genuinely portrayed as an ideal relationship.
So we've got an impressionable audience of young girls who are just beginning to figure what they want in life and from other people, learning that this abusive, controlling, seriously unhealthy relationship is an ideal they should aspire to. I was in high school when the Twilight-mania hit. A couple of first year girls broke up with their boyfriends because they "needed to be more like Edward Cullen".
So, yeah, I have problems with Twilight specifically because of its intended demographic. Young girls need all the help they can get, especially when it comes to unhealthy relationships, and Twilight did the opposite of help.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a fan, and when I was younger I definitely played into the bashing Twilight phase, but here's the thing: it's not really as abusive as people play it off. One of my least favorite trends in fandom is to figure out ways to label relationships as abusive if you don't like them. Most of the points that list their relationship abusive as either misleading, lying, or lacking context.

There are definitely some shitty things, but most of the actual shitty things are 'romance trope' shitty things that I don't feel like we have to blame this series more for than others.

I don't think Twilight has the kind of influence you thought. A lot of the time, the type of girls to pine for an Edward Cullen were pining for their fucked up idea of a perfect guy to begin with--they just didn't have a name or image to articulate it with. I don't think that kind of story creates problems, it's just an outlet for expressing them.

DA

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
As someone whose teenage experience is older than Twilight, I think you have a point. Twilight didn't make Edward Cullen a popular "perfect boyfriend" model, Twilight got popular because Edward fit the model of the type of "perfect boyfriend" character that was already popular.

Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
DING!DING!DING! We have a winner...

Anyway, you only need to read romance novels to realise it's not just teenage girls...

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
he ripped the engine out of her truck so she couldn't see other people

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
he stalked her in her bedroom

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
Were you one of the boyfriends?
You sound like one of those creepy friendzoned dudes who keep stalking, actual stalking not Twilight stalking eh, a girl who's rejected him because you're obviously such a nice guy, you're so much better than the asshole she's dating.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
DA. No they don't sound like that at all. You'd best be trolling, otherwise this is some scary degree of imagining things so you can get mad at them.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-20 11:24 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, you do sound like that.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
DA = Different Anon.

You need to lurk more.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
Your attempts at hiding your samefag are pathetic.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's funny because I was the anon who first used DA in this thread, and this is only my second post on this entire batch of secrets and these other people are different people. You really seem to be trying to hard to antagonise this imaginariy "single anon" who disagreed with you, so much so that you're pretending a bunch of anons who all use disticnly different writing styles are the same person.
If you want to get mad at someone so bad, try finding someone whl genuinely said a bad thing, and stop forcing your imagined slights on others.