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⌈ Secret Post #2726 ⌋

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07. [SPOILERS for Murder in the First]

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12. [WARNING for rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, ironically enough none of which OP warned for]

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13. [WARNING for eating disorders]

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It seems like a huge amount of the reason people object to demisexuality as a sexual orientation or a sexual identity is because people want to say "I am demisexual, and am therefore queer in the same way as LBGT people"

It's not crazy to identify that way. It's not even necessarily crazy to construct it as a sexual identity in the way you seem to be referring to. I mean, you're right as far as it goes, I am kind of agreeing with you here. It's just that you're not addressing that part of the conversation.

I'm not fond of people trying to limit the definition of "queer" (I don't think that's what you're doing, Anon) and I think that in the long run, people who experience sex in a relatively traditional way allying themselves with the LGBT community is a good thing.

But I do think it's obnoxious when people of any sexuality that hasn't been actively repressed start playing the oppression card. I even think it's obnoxious when LGBT folks start claiming persecution in situations where it doesn't exist, or when they've never experienced it. "Oh no I have to wait months or years before I can have sex with my partner!" is not persecution. Not even close.

But queer has a meaning, and I should think to most people who are actually queer (myself included), "expanding" the meaning seems like it's trying to water down our struggle at worst, and at best, get seriously off topic. First off, "demisexual" isn't remotely queer at all, and secondly, where would we stop when we start expanding the definition?

Of course I think people should ally with the LGBT community. But calling yourself "queer" because you're not sexually attracted to strangers isn't a great way to be an ally, and certainly doesn't make you a member. Even if you don't claim to be oppressed, why would you describe yourself with language that doesn't apply to you? It just doesn't make sense to me.

" I even think it's obnoxious when LGBT folks start claiming persecution in situations where it doesn't exist, or when they've never experienced it. "Oh no I have to wait months or years before I can have sex with my partner!" is not persecution. Not even close. "

I'm really not sure what you mean by this..

" I even think it's obnoxious when LGBT folks start claiming persecution in situations where it doesn't exist, or when they've never experienced it. "Oh no I have to wait months or years before I can have sex with my partner!" is not persecution. Not even close. "

I'm really not sure what you mean by this..

Especially considering there are actually differences in the ages of consent based on if it is queer sex or not. Some places have het ages of consent set at something like 17 but then have the ages of consent for queer sex at 21 (if it's even legal there at all).

SA - was thinking about it and wanted to clarify. It would probably be more accurate to say that one of the main reason people object to demisexuality as a sexual orientation is because THEY SAY people want to say they're queer

I don't know how much people actually do that. but that's where the debate lies.

Anon above you here.

I've seen queer people overreacting to demisexuals because they're "cheapening" what it means to be queer (their words), demisexuals calling themselves queer because they feel "different" (their words), and demisexuals calling themselves queer because OMG WE'RE PERSECUTED TOO (again, their words). I have no idea how common any of this is, but I've seen enough of it to notice it as a pattern. At least in my part of the internet.

"I've seen queer people overreacting to demisexuals because they're "cheapening" what it means to be queer"

But that is true. I'm not sure how that's anything but true.

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