[ SECRET POST #2726 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2726 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Naruto]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/dkPX9Ym.gif
[moving .gif, Steven Ogg, Grand Theft Auto V]


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07. [SPOILERS for Murder in the First]



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08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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09. [WARNING for rape]



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10. [WARNING for rape]



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11. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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12. [WARNING for rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, ironically enough none of which OP warned for]



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13. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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15. [WARNING for sexual abuse]



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Notes:

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with your points, but bullying it is not. Bullying is sustained harassment targeted towards an individual.

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. Bullying describes a behavior, not its duration. And telling people that a certain experience isn't abusive enough to be taken seriously is reprehensible. Just don't.

[(Anonymous)]

I did I say it shouldn't be taken seriously? Nope.

Don't strawman my arguments pls.

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SA

I didn't. Policing other people's word choice is a way of communicating that you think what they went through is not that serious. The sentence initially read "telling people that a certain experience isn't abusive enough to be called abuse is reprehensible."

[(Anonymous)]

An anonymous person on the internet insulting you once doesn't count as abusive.

[(Anonymous)]

Being on the internet does not make it okay. You can call security on an anonymous person who insults you in such a fashion just once in meatspace. That's a clue that it's not okay for them to act like that anywhere.

[diet_poison]

This.

The relative anonymity of the internet has led a lot of people to believe that their behavior is okay...it doesn't help either that they can't see the reactions of the people they're hurting. There's still no excuse; if it's wrong to say to someone's face, it's wrong to say online.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It's not anonymity that caused this. Maymay wrote a succinct explanation of this, with relevant links to studies on the subject, here http://days.maybemaimed.com/post/86131723775/artist-devises-face-mask-of-his-own-face-makes-many-copi

I find it especially ... unsurprising but sobering that trolling had a high correlation with sadism in psych tests. Putting paid to the idea that if they could just see the emotional damage they were doing, they wouldn't do it. But honestly, I don't know where that idea came from in the first place. It's all over the cultural landscape, but I've never seen evidence to support it.

[diet_poison]

I don't think that disproves my point, though. The internet is relatively anonymous even if you are using your real name. You're safe from retaliation and meatspace humiliation when you're sitting snug behind your keyboard thousands of miles away from the person you're tormenting. You do bring up a good point that some people don't care if they're hurting someone, but I also think (you can look at this very thread) that some people don't think it's a "big deal" to tell someone to kill themselves because they're able to tell themselves it's "just harmless trolling" and maybe wouldn't respond that way if they could see peoples' reactions. But you're right, there is a subset of people who would be giant douchewads either way. I do think, though, that the internet provides them a relatively safe way to do so as they don't have to worry about immediate physical retaliation and it's easier to avoid legal action.

[diet_poison]

Where is that line drawn? How sustained does it have to be before it becomes bullying? Is it less harmful or not harmful at all if it falls on the side you deem to be "harassment"?

Bullying, to me, is using intimidating and/or caustic and/or harmful behavior to exert control or power over another person and tear them down. It doesn't have to happen more than once to fit that bill.

[(Anonymous)]

Two, maybe three times. The key is that it's repeated and targeted towards an individual. It usually goes much longer than that, though.

Don't get me wrong, I do think think that one time harassment should most definitely be taken seriously and can cause people to off themselves if it's particularly nasty, but it's a very different beast compared to something that's a calculated effort towards a someone.

[diet_poison]

Alright, I can see that. I think it's mainly a semantics argument at that point, as long as we both agree that that behavior is bad and not acceptable. I agree that repeated, targeted behavior has different motivations and patterns than a one-off comment.