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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-06-28 03:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2734 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2734 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
You must be such a wonderful human being if you honestly believe that poor people don't deserve entertainment only because they can't afford it.

We're not talking here about people who can but don't want to pay. Have some empathy.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You literally just have to wait a week.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Ignore this, I thought you were replying to something else.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't, though. There are really other ways to entertain yourself that don't involve piracy. These people obviously have access to the internet which has literally endless amounts of free games and webcomics and webtoons and webseries, not to mention scads of legal, out-of-copyright copies of books. And, you know, all of the non-media entertainment that exists in the real world. It's a total bullshit argument to act like if poor people couldn't pirate then they would be staring at a wall until bedtime.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 10:39 pm (UTC)(link)
What harm are they doing?

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Reducing the profit of the companies, making it so that they can't pay their workers? There's definitely a disparity between what execs get paid v what actual creators do, but the solution isn't to steal everything.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
We are discussing poor people here. People who won't (can't) buy it even if they don't download it.

Someone who can pay but choses not to is not the same than someone who doesn't pay because they can't afford it.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
How are they reducing the profit? They are not increasing it, but that's not the same thing.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, in anime/manga's case, series get legal free options (ie streams) people used to the illegal methods often aren't aware of the legal options which loses money.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially manga-wise.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
The topic was "people who pirate because they are poor".

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Welp.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-28 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
If those people couldn't pirate, they wouldn't buy it, they'd go without.

So those companies/creators aren't actually losing anything.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
...I'm not sure why the company or the original writers should be sad that they're going without. I'm not even sure why you seem to think I'd be sad to hear that they're going without entertainment.

Frankly, this is a poor argument as to why it's okay.
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[personal profile] bio_obscura 2014-06-29 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
They didn't say anything about anyone being sad. They said people who pirate are not potential sources of revenue.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 01:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I call bullshit on that. They might not buy as much, but I seriously doubt most piraters could never afford any of it. Especially the ones who whine about how they pirate online. Like, so you're a college student without an income, and you download twenty movies and three TV series a month, maybe you can't afford all that, but you probably could afford to buy yourself a movie every once in awhile, or pay to rent it.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
As a ridiculously poor person at this moment in time, yes, I do honestly believe that poor people aren't entitled to entertainment only because they can't afford it.

And yes, I have plenty of empathy since I'm in that position right now.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Then why don't you and everybody else that can't afford all our entitled entertainment go and kill yourselves since you apparently can't enjoy yourselves without thieving Welfare Sluts and Fedora Moochers.

(Anonymous) 2014-06-29 05:15 pm (UTC)(link)
What does this even meaaaaaaaaan?