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STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

But that's not saying much. I seriously hated the 2009 film. Hated Kirk and Spock (especially Spock). Didn't give a crap about McCoy or Uhura. And the plot was just as nonsensical as STID's. At least with STID's the characters aren't at each other's throats constantly. Sure it has the epic Khan!fail but the 2009 film isn't a bastion of progressivism either.

When the characters were cooperating in STID and showing that they cared about each other, it ALMOST felt like Trek.

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

I really like how, when you look at it quickly, that looks like STD.

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

Or STI

It's both!

Sexually transmitted infectious disease -- STID

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

That is and has been how I read it

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

I disagree, 2009 had plotholes, sure, but the plot of STID can barely make it from one scene to the next without there being a fuckton of plotholes.

Like, we have this insane warp ability, so why are we flying ships? Why go to Klingon space and risk war and have it abandoned? Why the fuck would you gather all your top brass into a room at the top of a skyscraper in an emergency situation where you know at least one member of those brass is a target?

Who says, "Yes, let's wake up a 300 year old dude from cryo-sleep so he can design weapons better than our expert engineers who know how to use current technology"? It took the original Khan a while to read through the tech manuals (I still can't believe Kirk let him have access to those) but even then they didn't know/couldn't gain complete control of the ship and needed the ship's crew.

Why put them in 72 torpedos? (Also, that's not the original number of Khan's crew - some didn't make it through cryo-stasis, so what happened to the others?)

Like, STID cannot even make sense. 2009 doesn't have nearly as many issues (though I'm not a fan of it either)

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

2009 also has tons of plot holes though…like the fact that old Spock stays on Delta Vega because it's more important for Kirk and Spock to be best friends than save the Earth.

Yeah, STID makes no sense, but I'd argue the 2009 film doesn't make much more.

But I've given up completely on the plots. The reason I prefer STID has to do with the fact that the characters are a lot more likable. They're not always tearing each other down and they actually cooperate and seem to care about one another. So it's more enjoyable for me on that level.

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

SA

"STID makes no sense, but I'd argue the 2009 film doesn't make much more."

I'm sorry, this *is* what I meant. I didn't say it very well. STID makes zero sense, 2009 makes !% sense.

I couldn't even focus on the characters, I was too baffled by the plot.

Re: STID is better than the 2009 film...

[(Anonymous)]

I guess what I'm saying is that given that I gave up on both plots completely, I look to the characters and that pushes STID over for 2009 for me.

Both the plots are basically dead. STID's has been gruesomely dismembered and is a basically a pile of entrails while 2009 Trek's is mostly still intact, but they're equally "dead" to me.

But I can see why you'd be too baffled by the plot to focus on the characters…

I just tried to look on the bright side. And I don't consider the 2009 film's plot to be a bright side.