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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-04 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #2740 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2738 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Fargo]


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[The Dark Tower]


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[Free!]


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[Edge of Tomorrow]


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07.
[Iggy Pop]


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[Sarah Jane Adventures, Quantum Leap]


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[Captain America: The Winter Soldier]


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[Kamui Cosplay]


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[Marvel Comics]


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[Deep Space Nine]


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14. [repeat]


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15. [SPOILERS for Infinity Gauntlet]



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16. [SPOILERS for Smallville]
[WARNING for suicide]



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17. [WARNING for suicide]



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18. [WARNING for rape]



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19. [WARNING for suicide]





















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(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
sa
If he's a friend, like I'm assuming (again, haven't seen the show; but it's Superman, he's supposed to help), then just stay for a while until the guy's not rearing to kill himself right then and there. I know you probably have more experience than me with the topic, but from my personal experiences with both trying to kill myself and with trying to help my friends who've done the same, just BEING there instead of gallivanting off is a much better option. It's one thing when you're unaware of the situation, it's another when someone has just tried to commit suicide and you're aware of it, and STILL leave.
If there's a super good reason Clark had to leave, then sorry, but not really.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Or at least get them to someone else who can help and/or stay with them? I feel like you'd have to be a pretty terrible person to know that someone has just tried to kill themself and then leave without really doing anything. (haven't seen the show, either, btw)

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly this. It can take a while for someone to get out of the "I'm doing it right now" mindset (or at least, it was for me, I won't presume this is/was the case for everyone...). It's not right to leave a person alone at a moment like that.
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(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt
I can see what you're saying. I have never experienced the type of people who you mention in your second parahraph - those who use their suicidal feelings to manipulate people, so I've been working only with the thought of those who keep people out of the loop in mind. In a case like that, I think not being there in that instant is legitimately a case of "there was nothing you could really do" since you can't know what is serious or what is an attempt at attention-grabbing with no real intent to harm.

I also understand what you mean about vilifying friends; but I think that being there is expected in any friendship. Missing a phone call or such is excusable, you CAN'T be there 24/7 for a person like you said, but for that one moment when they seriously need someone with them? Yes, as a friend you should help. If you're not there and don't know they're right on the brink, okay, you're only human. However, if you are there with them, in person, and still can't be bothered to help? That's a problem.

Sorry about attacking you; my phrasing was pretty rude. This is something that's eaten up the majority of my life so I can get unreasonable about it. My apologies.
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(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt
I've my own hang ups about how people ignore anything that might make them uncomfortable, but I also like to think that in an extreme instance most people would do good. Thanks for sharing your views, I was being prickly but it was in actuality very interesting.
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[personal profile] kallanda_lee 2014-07-05 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Just having someone there can help.
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[personal profile] leisuretime 2014-07-04 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't gotten that far in my rematch, so I don't remember if Clark had to run off to be a hero just then, but if he didn't...the appropriate thing to do would be to offer comfort, friendship and help - even if it's jut in the form of an ear to listen - to a friend who had jut tried to kill themselves. Basically there's a big, vast difference between "not rushing off 5 minutes later" and "monitoring him 24/7."

(Anonymous) 2014-07-04 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
first anon
Yes, that's what I was trying to get across, but you said it much, much better!
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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-07-04 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
+1.
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(Anonymous) 2014-07-05 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, he was going off to do emergency response. The character pictured actually told Clark he'd be fine, and to go help out, because Clark's first instinct was to stay and try to help him through things.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-07 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
He still shouldn't have left and he could've at least called some of their other friends to stay with him. I remember when I was in this situation and I would tell people I was okay so they'd leave me alone and I could go back to hurting myself again.

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Also, he only got worse after this until Chloe helped him out (in a way wich I don't think would work in real life)