[ SECRET POST #2741 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2741 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Paget based the face his brother-in-law's (I read somewhere), but you would think that Doyle would have had some influence if he'd thought it was totally wrong.

[solticisekf]

Since the stories were so popular, I'm sure he had a say? That's why I think this interpretation is not far from what Doyle intended.

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly don't know, but it's not guaranteed. Insanely popular authors now usually don't get a say on their cover art.

[solticisekf]

This is a good point. *nods* The art is good otherwise though.

[tweedisgood]

(Victorian prejudices alert)Doyle thought he had made him "too handsome" and not enough "the Red Indian Type" as he had intended.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, they wanted his looks to appeal to female readers, apparently. As if women wouldn't have read the excellent stories otherwise! *eyeroll*

I think he'd have been just as popular among women if he were drawn "ugly" like Doyle wanted. Though, honestly, there's enough in the stories themselves that shows he wasn't plain in the least, but had a "striking" appearance. If he were a plain sort of fellow, Doyle would have said so, he was very particular about looks in his stories. "Plain in a vulgar sort of way", haha (was just reading a Case of Identity and Miss Sutherland is described by Watson as a fine woman in a vulgar sort of way, she wasn't high-born or super rich, hence the "vulgar" bit).

[tweedisgood]

In Watson's defence, he describes the just as modestly born and much more impoverished - Mary Morstan in glowing terms, and the same (allowing for not fancying them) of several of the governesses/typists [women who needed to work, pretty much bottom of the Victorian pile] they helped. I'd say it was more Mary Sutherland's denseness seen in retrospect than her class that provoked that comment.

My own vision of Holmes is indeed striking more than handsome - you only have to read his introduction in STUD to know that ACD meant him to be memorable.

[tweedisgood]

And what about: "For all the preposterous hat and the vacuous face, there was something noble in the simple faith of our visitor which compelled our respect"? ACD's characterisation can be quite subtle.

[solticisekf]

Doyle intended Holmes to look like Indian aka Mative American? It doesn't make sense considering Holmes's upper middle class in Victorian London. Oo

[tweedisgood]

No, no: that was ACD's way of expressing "hawk nose, high cheekbones, piercing eyes" - not that he actually wanted to present Holmes as a real Native American. Hence "Red Indian *type*"

[solticisekf]

Oh, right! I personaly imagened a more refined face when reading the books, without prominient eyebrows or a particulary piercing gaze. I think everyone has their own version of SH.)