[ SECRET POST #2742 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2742 ⌋

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Comments

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[herpymcderp]

The only thing that is really barring psychologists from gathering more conclusive data on the subject is the complications that arise when you try to confirm it experimentally (screwing with the brain structure of a person for science is never justified) and the dearth of studies on natural transgender and nonbinary individuals.

Given that these people are such a small percentage of the population and that many do not want to be identified it can be extremely difficult finding participants for studies.

Although, looking at it as a cultural construct is more of an exercise in philosophy anyway imo. What makes a man? What makes a woman? Can anyone really be called a man or a woman if there are so many disparate ideas about what those two things encompass?

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[dreemyweird]

>Although, looking at it as a cultural construct is more of an exercise in philosophy anyway imo. What makes a man? What makes a woman? Can anyone really be called a man or a woman if there are so many disparate ideas about what those two things encompass?

That was exactly my problem even before I read your original post. Like, reasonably I can understand how the cultural concept of gender is a thing that matters to people, but trying to connect to it emotionally was a weird and fruitless experience because I'm aware of SO MANY cultural motifs that have a gender flavour.

On the other hand, maybe some people feel really strongly about certain ideas of masculinity or femininity they were raised with. And then it becomes a part of their identity. In some environments, the diversity of gendered concepts isn't nearly as obvious.

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[herpymcderp]

Well, like I said in my other post, not understanding how people can feel that way is fine. For the most part I wouldn't expect people to go around feeling "male" or "female". It seems as though the problem really only arises when 2 + 2 = 3, so to speak. In other words, when there's something missing in their gender equation: either physiologically in the case of transgender individuals, or psychosocially as seems to be the case with non-binary non-trans folks who might identify as third gender, agender etc.

If you're lucky enough to have all the components in place I doubt there would be a reason for any such feeling to ever enter into your head unless you were in a social situation where strict gender roles were enforced.

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[dreemyweird]

Yes, this makes sense. I'm not sure if I'm just very comfortable with what I have or if I'm a "non-binary non-trans agender" (I don't really think I'd be distressed if I were forced to present as another gender?..), but it's not like I care either way.

Thanks for your explanation; it supplements that thread about the cultural idea of gender very nicely.

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[herpymcderp]

You're welcome. And in all honesty the message I'd most like to send to people is:

If you're comfortable with how you currently are there's no real reason to change. If at some point it becomes stressful or a problem, then and only then do you need to worry about it.