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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-06 04:04 pm

[ SECRET POST #2742 ]


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dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-07-06 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
>Although, looking at it as a cultural construct is more of an exercise in philosophy anyway imo. What makes a man? What makes a woman? Can anyone really be called a man or a woman if there are so many disparate ideas about what those two things encompass?

That was exactly my problem even before I read your original post. Like, reasonably I can understand how the cultural concept of gender is a thing that matters to people, but trying to connect to it emotionally was a weird and fruitless experience because I'm aware of SO MANY cultural motifs that have a gender flavour.

On the other hand, maybe some people feel really strongly about certain ideas of masculinity or femininity they were raised with. And then it becomes a part of their identity. In some environments, the diversity of gendered concepts isn't nearly as obvious.

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-07-06 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, like I said in my other post, not understanding how people can feel that way is fine. For the most part I wouldn't expect people to go around feeling "male" or "female". It seems as though the problem really only arises when 2 + 2 = 3, so to speak. In other words, when there's something missing in their gender equation: either physiologically in the case of transgender individuals, or psychosocially as seems to be the case with non-binary non-trans folks who might identify as third gender, agender etc.

If you're lucky enough to have all the components in place I doubt there would be a reason for any such feeling to ever enter into your head unless you were in a social situation where strict gender roles were enforced.
dreemyweird: (austere)

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[personal profile] dreemyweird 2014-07-06 10:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, this makes sense. I'm not sure if I'm just very comfortable with what I have or if I'm a "non-binary non-trans agender" (I don't really think I'd be distressed if I were forced to present as another gender?..), but it's not like I care either way.

Thanks for your explanation; it supplements that thread about the cultural idea of gender very nicely.

Re: What are your thoughts (repost of missfire)

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2014-07-06 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
You're welcome. And in all honesty the message I'd most like to send to people is:

If you're comfortable with how you currently are there's no real reason to change. If at some point it becomes stressful or a problem, then and only then do you need to worry about it.