[ SECRET POST #2747 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2747 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hobbit/Thorin Oakenshield]


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[The Vincent Black Shadow]


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[El Goonish Shive]


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[Miss Fisher's Murder Mysteries]


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[Penny Dreadful]


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[Supernatural]


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[Blake's 7]


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[Edge of Tomorrow/Tom Cruise]


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[Quirk]


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[Homestuck]




















18. [WARNING for rape]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #392.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 2 (tw: rape) - not!secrets ], [ 1 (?) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not about liking or disliking the pairing. I ship Dean and Castiel (in fact they are the reason why I watch the show), that doesn't mean that I'm deluded enough to believe that Dean is gay or bisexual.

[(Anonymous)]

Did you miss my second paragraph, though? Dean COULD be bisexual. I'm not saying he is, nor that there is evidence that there is, but there doesn't have to be "evidence" for it to be true. Point is, Dean is not necessarily 100% heterosexual. Showing interest in one gender doesn't mean interest in the other gender can't happen. This stuff happens in real life all the time.

No, I don't think people could rationally claim Dean is secretly gay. Though I think interpreting him as slightly bisexual is not any more irrational than interpreting him as 100% straight.

[(Anonymous)]

Dean is straight. Confirmed by the writers and the actor. You can try again.

[(Anonymous)]

Death of the Author

Only what's in the text matters.

[(Anonymous)]

Death of the Author does not involve completely dismissing the author's perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

da

I think you mean author's interpretation. And yes, it does.

Wrong

[(Anonymous)]

No, in fact it doesn't. Granted, it's a common misconception, and much beloved of fandom for obvious reasons. But nowhere will you find a genuine (not fourth hand, "I'm sure that's true, I heard it somewhere") academic strain that says the author's intention means *nothing*. It is one of a number of possible things one can get from the text, is all, and has been knocked off its pedestal as the only way to look at and interpret a text.

[(Anonymous)]

No, it doesn't. It means that the author's interpretation has to be considered within its sociocultural context, and that through the act of reading, we share in the creation of a story.

It does not mean that the author doesn't matter; it means that the author is one piece of a whole, and that we mustn't only look at the author's intent when analyzing a text.

[arcadiaego]

No it doesn't, although I usually do anyway.

[(Anonymous)]

And what is in the text is also that Dean is explicitly, unequivocally not attracted to men.

[(Anonymous)]

na

Yeah, this. There's nothing wrong with relating with a character and creating a fanon where he's more like you. In fanon anyone can be anything. There's nothing wrong with interpreting things as whatever you want. There's nothing wrong with any ship or sexuality. All are valid.

But there's a line. You have to realize it's your own fanon/headcanons and not actual reality.

(Wishing/hoping is one thing. Actually thinking/claiming it's true is another.)

[(Anonymous)]

Of course it's silly to think in the actual canon, Dean is gay or something.

But the entire point of my post was that liking women a lot doesn't mean it's impossible that he's bisexual, which OP doesn't seem to understand. Interpreting a character in a way that doesn't counter how he or she is in canon is not crossing any line.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry, I've just seen too many non-rational people about this issue. As long as you're (general you, not you ayrt) not breaking the fourth wall or harassing anyone, there should be no problem with how anyone reads canon.

[(Anonymous)]

and by "you" i meant "general you" not OP, or the subthread OP or anyone in specific.