[ SECRET POST #2748 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2748 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early because ... World Cup! No other excuse.

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Comments

[skippydelicious]

I don't see the problem. Just like you don't rip the iron from someone's blood without permission (or rather you shouldn't unless you are a bad guy), you don't invade someone else's mind without permission. Mystique should be free to look as blue as she wants anywhere she wants (although, yes, I would recommend some extra clothing), and Emma and Charles are free to use their telepathy on anyone who has given permission to do so. I'd see no problem using it to send their "spoken" thoughts in a public place too, as long as it is just sending and not reading.

[(Anonymous)]

I guess it depends on how telepathy works. Is constantly reading their resting state or do they have to work to do it? If it is their natural state to always be "on" and blocking themselves from reading minds takes a lot of effort, then I think it is hypocritical of Erik and Raven.

I mean, what if Raven being in her natural blue state makes other people uncomfortable?

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, what if Raven being in her natural blue state makes other people uncomfortable?

No one should have to worry about who they are making someone else "feel uncomfortable".

[(Anonymous)]

Then why should telepaths have to limit their power? As long as they are not hurting anyone or using their powers maliciously they are only making people uncomfortable because they have the ability to read thoughts.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I didn't say that? Literally my only comment was about how people shouldn't have to worry about making someone else feel uncomfortable. Did you mean to comment to the other anon?

[(Anonymous)]

I think the problem that's being addressed here is that they're having their privacy invaded, it's worse than just being uncomfortable by how some other person looks.

[(Anonymous)]

By that logic I should be able to ban any mutant from entering my property that I think is dangerous. Sure, Havok has not blown me up but he could do it. With or without my permission.

[skippydelicious]

I think you are fully able, in just about every western country, to ban whoever the hell you feel like from your property for whatever reason you damn well want. Hell, you can ban someone from coming on your property for no reason except "because fuck you, that's why". In Florida and Texas you can even shoot 'em if they don't retreat.

[(Anonymous)]

Then I can refuse to hire a mutant who I feel might be dangerous. "Oh. This mutant can run through walls? How did I know he won't steal from me?"

[skippydelicious]

That would be a states rights issue. You'd have to refer to your own state's employment law. In some states, almost certainly.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not a states' rights issue when it comes to protected classes like EG race. Being allowed to not hire black people is not a states' rights issue and it hasn't been for like 60 years. That's the argument that the opponents of the civil rights movement used, but it was not successful.

And I don't think that's irrelevant, given how frequently mutants have been used as an analogue for African-Americans and other minority groups.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
In some states you can fire someone for being gay.

[(Anonymous)]

In many.

[ozaline]

The book "The Law of Superheroes" actually goes into a great deal if current civil rights legislation would protect mutants... the answer is "probably, partially."

But they're also often used as an lgbt analog (and that rings truer given you know a black person is black from birth and many mutants are not "out" until puberty), and in much of the states it's still legal to discriminate against trans people, not to mention bills being pushed forward to try and allow people to refuse service based on their religious beliefs.


Anyway it's important to Remember Eric and Raven never wanted Charles to give up his gifts and Eric was taken quite aback to find out he had. They have a right to protect themselves or to ask Charles to get out of their head. The same way Havok needed to be trained to not hurt people, Charles had to train himself not too.

I don't think Eric would have an issue with Charles using his powers against their oppressors... but both of them agree powers like that shouldn't be used to hurt innocents, the only distinction is their definition of innocent. Remember Magneto recruited Emma into his brotherhood at the end of first class and lamented her death in Days of Future Past.