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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-12 03:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2748 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2748 ⌋

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Notes:

Early because ... World Cup! No other excuse.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-12 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Why does that surprise you? George RR Martin is an excellent writer, but he did explicitly say before the publication of the first book that this series (A Song of Ice and Fire) was going to be populist writing, exploiting all the common tropes and cliches which seem to attract the greatest number of readers.

So while a very readable saga, of course it is a much lower level of writing than he is capable of: seriously, GRRM has written spectacularly beautiful novels and I'd consider his usual style to be almost poetic. Didn't he win the Hugo 4 times and the Nebula a couple of times too? Check out THOSE books if you want to see his remarkable writing skills, not A Song of Ice and Fire...

After spending years in Hollywood learning and practicing TV writing, if he announces he will now write a series of sword & fantasy to appeal to the mass public and make as much money as possible, if only to prove to other bestseller writers than a good writer is just as capable of writing trash as they are, I am not surprised to notice that said door stoppers are, as promised, written in an average, plodding, unremarkable style with lots of violence and sex, at the opposite spectrum of what he normally writes...

Just the name of the series makes me think of a made up Mary Sue name: it's not just that he announced it, he is not being subtle about it... :D

(Anonymous) 2014-07-12 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
That is interesting, if true, especially considering how much the series is lauded for subverting fantasy genre tropes.
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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-07-12 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read a bit of his other stuff, like Sandkings and Portraits of His Children, and I wouldn't say the prose is THAT much better. There's no moist glistening, but I recall the line "her secret places were like honey."

(Anonymous) 2014-07-12 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Uhh, so you're saying that GRRM is a good writer despite a multitude of fairly bad writing (mediocre at best), and that the worst of his writing doesn't count because he wanted to make it popular? "Glistening manhood" isn't exploiting popular tropes. It's bad writing.

And I don't think at this point you can say "violence and sex" are the opposite of what he "normally" writes. That's pretty much what he writes, and gratuitously (and in bad prose) at that.
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[personal profile] inkdust 2014-07-13 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Pretty big difference between story tropes and actual word choices, as anon above me said.