[ SECRET POST #2748 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2748 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early because ... World Cup! No other excuse.

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Comments

[fscom]

13. https://38.media.tumblr.com/4be8acb0fb45f4e919126562b9c9c842/tumblr_n8bei8LjPz1rq2vv5o1_500.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree on the "moist" thing.

"She planted a moist kiss on his cheek."

No. No no. That just sounds really creepy and gross.

[sarillia]

My friend is reading it for the first time and he said the same thing. He was expecting something more impressive based on all the hype.

[(Anonymous)]

To be fair, I have never read or watched a hyped up series and have it meet my expectations.

[(Anonymous)]

That was me. Of course, hype is tough to live up to and all, but I came out of it thinking the series was genuinely bad, not just overhyped.

[comradesmiler]

[(Anonymous)]

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[fauxkaren]

GRRM's writing style leaves a lot to be desired.

Luckily the stories and characters that he's created have sucked me in so I'm stuck now even if I have to keep reading about words being wind and things being as useless as nipples on a breastplate.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. Being a good writer and a good storyteller aren't necessarily the same thing.

[(Anonymous)]

I've read worse. JKR, for example. terrible writing.

[(Anonymous)]

Rowling's writing may be bland, but she's never described something quite like "glistening manhood"

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly think JKR is a better writer than GRRM. Not that JKR is great, but GRRM is just that much worse. Pretty much any sex scene he's ever written, ugh.

[(Anonymous)]

Trying to change the subject by randomly tackling another writer is a bit pointless. It's perfectly possible for *both* JKR and Martin to be bad writers at the same time.

"his glistening manhood"

[(Anonymous)]

His. Glistening. Manhood.
That's when I decided not to read the books

Re: "his glistening manhood"

[anonymous4]

Actually, "his manhood glistened wetly," which isn't quite the same.

In the next sentence, his "mouth twisted in a frown", which is one of my pet hates, but I still find his prose perfectly bearable, and he's a good story teller.

[ginainthekingsroad]

I kind of want to make a tally the next time (if) I read them again, of exactly how many "You know nothing"s Ygritte has, and how many "useless as nipples on a breastplate"s the Lannister sibs have because all 3 of them use it and it drives me crazy.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you have a reddit account? If so, there's a bot on the r/asioaf sub that you can use to find out many times a certain phrase appears in the book. Pretty useful from what I've seen

[nightscale]

Haha, yeah his prose choice isn't always fantastic, but I can ignore somewhat iffy text if I enjoy a story/characters.

[(Anonymous)]

Why does that surprise you? George RR Martin is an excellent writer, but he did explicitly say before the publication of the first book that this series (A Song of Ice and Fire) was going to be populist writing, exploiting all the common tropes and cliches which seem to attract the greatest number of readers.

So while a very readable saga, of course it is a much lower level of writing than he is capable of: seriously, GRRM has written spectacularly beautiful novels and I'd consider his usual style to be almost poetic. Didn't he win the Hugo 4 times and the Nebula a couple of times too? Check out THOSE books if you want to see his remarkable writing skills, not A Song of Ice and Fire...

After spending years in Hollywood learning and practicing TV writing, if he announces he will now write a series of sword & fantasy to appeal to the mass public and make as much money as possible, if only to prove to other bestseller writers than a good writer is just as capable of writing trash as they are, I am not surprised to notice that said door stoppers are, as promised, written in an average, plodding, unremarkable style with lots of violence and sex, at the opposite spectrum of what he normally writes...

Just the name of the series makes me think of a made up Mary Sue name: it's not just that he announced it, he is not being subtle about it... :D

[(Anonymous)]

That is interesting, if true, especially considering how much the series is lauded for subverting fantasy genre tropes.

[(Anonymous)]

Well, it's not Thomas Mann, what did you expect? ;) But I think as far as fantasy goes, it's not badly written. Some stuff is annoying (mostly his tendency to repeat the same lines as a ~stylistic device~), but most of the time I find his writing pleasantly neutral so I can just focus on the story. And every now and then, he writes stuff that is just gorgeous.

[greenvelvetcake]

GRRM is good at a lot of things, and I like the books, but he is not great with words. Not to mention he needs a better editor.

Lest we forget the whole "the more she drank, the more she shat, and the more she shat, the more she had to drink..."

just... why?

I'm just gonna leave this here.

[(Anonymous)]

http://youtu.be/O10IjF2Ahs4

Scarcely...

[(Anonymous)]

there's scarcely a page in the first book where the word scarcely is scarcely strewn.

When I read it I was really astonished at how muh the editor must have overlooked.

I think he writes characters compellingly, but yeah, his relationship to the english language is hardly the of passionate tolkienian kind.

[i_paint_the_sky]

I have to say, this secret and thread are a relief to me because I know people who think his writing style is OMGAMAZING and I just don't see it. After the last two books, I don't even think he's that great a storyteller because oh god, the filler!

He's an amazing worldbuilder and he does have some pretty awesome characters in there (along with a whole bunch I couldn't care less about) but his writing skills are average at best.