[ SECRET POST #2748 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2748 ⌋

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Notes:

Early because ... World Cup! No other excuse.

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Comments

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[sporkly]

Nope.

Even if someone figures out how to speak dog or something, the power imbalance is too great and there's too much of a difference in mental capabilities for it not to be disgusting as hell.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[ill_omened]

And that's why you're vegetarian?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[sporkly]

I'm not?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[ill_omened]

Right.

Which seems to leave you in a bit of a clear intellectual conflict.

Animals don't consent to be food, and don't consent to their current living conditions, which lets be honest, are generally pretty horrific.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

are you a vegetarian or a zoophile

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[ill_omened]

That's a false multi-choice question. You're ignoring the third choice - hypocrite.

But no and no. It's an interesting thought experiment though. Morally I just don't see a compelling argument meat eating to be okay but not zoophilia. Or rather in the first world. You do not need to hunt to survive, and the idea that we allow more animals to live that wouldn't in the wild doesn't even slightly hold up if you follow through with it.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

do you feel the same way about poisoning stray cats and dogs?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[ill_omened]

I don't follow?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

how is it any worse than eating cows?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[ill_omened]

You're going to have to take a few steps back here, and expand on what you mean by poisoning stray cats and dogs, and how it links to the original discussion.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

if it's hypocritical to eat meat and think having sex with animals is wrong, wouldn't it also be hypocritical to eat meat and think poisoning stray animals is wrong?

or is eating meat morally equivalent to having sex with animals, but poisoning them is worse?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

I think there's a moral difference between using animals for sustenance and abusing them for your own pleasure. Just like I'm ethically fine with hunting animals for food but I find hunting for sport to be somewhat tacky

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

So if you eat cheeseburgers, you have to accept a guy molesting his dog?

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

Don't question it--ill_omened is dumb a lot.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[sporkly]

There's a big difference between screwing an animal and living with one.

Kids don't consent to living with their parents either, but I don't consider that cruel as long as their needs are taken care of. And many domesticated animals are not suited for a life without people.

As for the meat industry, I acknowledge that there's issues with its treatment of animals and animals don't consent to being slaughtered and all that jazz, but it's not a topic I feel educated enough or comfortable about to discuss.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

Random passerby anon just saying I think this is a really good response.

Re: tw for animal cruelty?

[(Anonymous)]

Ten points for blatant attempt to pointlessly sidetrack discussion with idiotic non-parallel. Nice work.