[ SECRET POST #2753 ]

[case]

⌈ Secret Post #2753 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[case]

I really really hate the ingenue/shining good/pure and delicate hero/ine trope. ESPECIALLY if they're so self-sacrificing that they hurt themselves and make themselves incapable of helping people or doing any practical good, like - oh nooo they're in a battle situation and can't defend themselves on moral grounds (being too terrified to do anything and feeling guilty later is not the same) so they let themselves be attacked because they refuse to harm! and force everyone else to drag them along/help them later, which drains everyone else of supplies/energy/time and this is portrayed as the moral high road because everyone else doesn't matter and how DARE they be selfish and resent that pure shiny hero/ine of good and purity is slowing everyone down, the sanctity of their morals are more important than other people's lives/comfort/morals! They're designated good! Arggghhhhhhhh

/rant

Now if you have a character like that and they're portrayed as self-absorbed and sanctimonious and useless and a burden to the rest of the group, which they ARE, I like it.ETA: Or they guilt about BEING a burden but recognize that they're being one, at least. Sadly most of them just get more determined to be good and pure and the practical character that wants to kick them out of the group is designated villain. Or 'jealous' warghhh

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[(Anonymous)]

Now if you have a character like that and they're portrayed as self-absorbed and sanctimonious and useless and a burden to the rest of the group, which they ARE, I like it

Do you have any examples handy where this has happened or is it just something you wish would happen? I would interested to see a character portrayed like this if you know of any

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[case]

Sadly, no, it's a wish thing. :c

If anyone does know, I'd like to know too!

Maybe in a zombie apocalypse series? Somewhere?

(I mean, I'd hope so, someone who was all 'I am pure and good and morally opposed to violence you'll just have to risk all your lives to save me all the time or DEAL WITH THE GUILT OF LETTING ME DIEEeee you bad person. also feed me' would be the first to be kicked from any group I was in, just saying)

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[othellia]

SPOILERS FOR XENA AND MADOKA MAGICA

Xena with Gabrielle. At one point Gabrielle swears a non-killing oath because she doesn't like it and thinks she can live all high and mighty. It eventually leads to getting both herself and Xena killed (but only temporarily because Xena). When Gabrielle's resurrected, she takes on a much more sensible approach and kills to protect herself when the need arises.

Madoka Magica fits that to a point. One of the magical girls says she'll be different and better from all the other magical girls/choose a more virtuous path/acts all righteous and superior/etc. She soon enters a downwards spiral of depression with her becoming the very kind of monster she's fighting.

Same goes for another one of the magical girls. She's the most virtuous and "team mom" so to speak. But she can't handle any moral ambiguity. In an alternate timeline when she learns that they have a risk of becoming the monsters they fight, she starts murdering her team and then has to get murdered herself before she kills the rest. The casualties the group suffers from this pretty much wipes away any chance of that timeline ending as a happy one.

The time traveller of the group doesn't much stock or trust in her after that.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[(Anonymous)]

do you RP?

cause

thats every pure and delicate innocent princess flower OC you described there

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[case]

YES.

And on that note, the invariable bad boy/girl stalker protector thing who the pure one falls for who angsts forever about NOT BEING GOOD ENOUGH for pure bastion of goodness, while not making any effort to actually change themselves for the better or anything like that. Better to just woe dramatically about what he cannot haaaveeeee and protect them from afarrrr so their bubble of innocence and purity is never shattered

I mean, it's not like a dose of reality and practicality would be good for people, or anything, right

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[(Anonymous)]

thats happening in a PBBGRP im in right now

shes a doe eyed elf princess and hes a warlock with sexy scars

she could have dammed a river and caused a flood to stop an invading army but she couldnt bear to hurt the animals to stop the invasion and everyone died which means my OC and everyone elses OC who was in the elf villages family got murdered

in her active thread shes crying to the warlock about how shes cursed with a soft heart and hes telling her shes beautiful

the rest of us are all fucking laughing

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[case]

http://i.imgur.com/3jMoRgs.jpg

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[caecilia]

Cold Comfort Farm is kind of a parody of that.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[case]

The summary of that actually sounds pretty good, I'll have to check it out!

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[caecilia]

Yay! The book had me laughing out loud a lot. The movie is okay but made some changes I didn't like. I think I'll re-read it now.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[(Anonymous)]

oh my gosh, someone else who's heard of that novel! i love you!

no but seriously i love that book. it's perfect.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[caecilia]

To be honest, I probably wouldn't have picked it up if not for the Penguin cover, and I am eternally glad I did.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[othellia]

It's been forever since I watched that. Which character are you referring to? Not the main one?

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[caecilia]

yeah

the satire is more obvious in the book I think

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[othellia]

Probably. The main thing I remember from the film version is BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN!EVERYONE IS DAMNED!BRIMSTONE AND FIRE!PREACHER!SIR IAN MCKELLAN.

Re: Common tropes/cliches you hate

[scrubber]

Haha I was also about to post "perfect pure angel female characters" but the dopey pure-hearted shounen hero asshat can also bit a dick. They suck too.

YOU HEAR THAT CAPTAIN EARTH.

YOU SUCK.