ext_82219 ([identity profile] shahni.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2007-12-04 01:17 pm

[ SECRET POST #333 ]


⌈ Secret Post #333 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

- NAME THAT FANDOM IS THE FIRST COMMENT, PLEASE! ♥ And also repeats n'stuff. :3
- AUGH WE'RE HITTING NEARLY 50 SECRETS PER POST. ._.; You guys rock. ♥

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 151 secrets from Secret Submission Post #048.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom. -- becausemakingtheseinthemiddleofthenightmakesmelazy^^;
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Wednesday, December 5th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

in which I see your tl;dr and raise you by two.

[identity profile] unite.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Personally, I find it a tad ridiculous that you went and found source pictures just to prove a secret wrong. It’s not a school project, it’s a fucking fandom community.

With that said, I do agree with a lot of what you've said here (not the way you said it by any stretch of the imagination, however) as far as Albel goes. Albel is quite dysfunctional due to his upbringing – I imagine he’s terrified of allowing any sort of relationship, friendship or romantically, because forming attachments, Albel thinks, will only lead to more pain. He lost his father and blames himself, hates himself for it, and probably doesn’t even believe in the power of having a relationship with anyone because it can be so brutally and quickly taken away, with Albel powerless to stop it. If he EVER participated in an intimate relationship, it wouldn’t be for a very, very long time and after Albel really deals with the hatred of himself and the regrets of his past.

Eh, the way he dresses… whatever. XD; I mean, I would never do it, because Airyglyph looks god damn freezing, but I’ve always thought of his outfit as less of a ‘I’M A BIG GAY 8D’ statement and more of a ‘I’m not like the rest of you worms’ statement. He doesn’t want to fall into the mold of armor and chains – not to mention, he’s one of the quickest (if not THE quickest) members of your party. Why’s that? Because he doesn’t wear big clanky armor. If he relies on attacks in quick succession followed by quick retreats, then he needs to wear something that will allow for free movement. … while, again, all the while he’s making a statement that he’s too good for conformity.

His arm I believe is still intact, just burnt and, quite naturally, completely unusable. It’s really up to fan debate, since it’s never actually stated as such in game. In fact I think it explains the gauntlet all the more so, since he’s not only turning the weakness of the burns and disgrace into an effective and deadly weapon, but he’s hiding the burns as best he can.

As for his “obsession,” it’s more of a shock factor, really. It’s safe to suggest that Albel was nigh undefeatable up until Fayt came along with his stupid Destruction gene. So his “infatuation” is more of like… hm, not admiration, but… aaah, I lost the word. Basically Albel only recognizes Fayt because he lost to him. There’s no crush, no ‘I’ll let them go because he’s SO CUTE~’ bullshit, it’s just matter of fact, he can’t believe he lost, and he wants to stick with Fayt long enough to discover what makes him so strong and have another chance at destroying him on the battlefield.

Their interaction at the Peterny Inn is actually very telling in the complete opposite way you described it. If you have Fayt say he hates him, Albel cuts the conversation short – Fayt’s a tactless piece of crap and Albel’s not willing to hear that. To me, he sounds generally hurt. If Fayt says he doesn’t hate him, Albel is generally surprised – especially at the idea that Fayt respects him, even just a little. I expect Albel is a victim of ridicule due to his failure at the Succession of Flame (or whatever it’s called, I can’t remember) and heck, his troops don’t even like him. So I think the idea that someone who beat him actually respects and admires – even though he doesn’t understand it – Albel’s dedication to the battlefield. I believe his eventual dismissal of the event is basically just him not being able to deal with that idea, the conflicts in being respected by someone who has already proven to be better at him in the one thing he prides himself on.

Re: in which I see your tl;dr and raise you by two.

[identity profile] ex-monarchy375.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly have to agree with a lot of the things you said here as well. One of my big problems with general Albel romance is him just JUMPING THE GUN OF WUV for no apparent reason.

Albel actually lost to Fayt, Cliff and Nel--it was just Fayt that used that final line against him, the one he used against them previously. That left an emotional scar, especially considering his past, and his desire to prove he's the best. He lost and he was mocked. But it's not some kind of love obsession, and that's the point I was trying to make.

I'm not talking about the interaction in the inn, I'm talking about the private action right afterwards. That's where Albel asks Fayt about the King and the war; and it's there that he starts talking about it, not in the inn.

Well, everyone interprets things differently. I interpreted that as the fact that underneath it all, Albel really does want a friend, someone to challenge him (and he admits the first part in the Crimson Scourge scene), but he isn't completely sure how to approach it and not that he has some kind of creepy obsession with Fayt sticking it in his ass. If that's how someone else wants to see it, that's well and good-that's not even my point. The point is that just because he doesn't look "normal" by someone's standards doesn't mean he's completely full of teh ghey. If this person would've posted, "I think Albel/Fayt is beautiful, it reminds me of me and my boyfriend" or something, I wouldn't have said anything. I was aggravated by the approach of the whole thing, not who they pair Albel with--I could care less. It's just the "HE NEEDS BUTTSECKS BECAUSE HE LOOKS TTLY HOMOO!!!" that annoyed me.

[identity profile] unite.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
No, I don't see it as a love obsession, either. He's not all instantly infatuated and wants to buttsex. He wants another chance to smear the maggot into the dirt. ♥

You did speak about the in-the-inn thing! Barely, but spoken of nonetheless. And I can't remember the other responses he offers other than WAR MASCULINITY KING'S CRAP, etc, so I didn't touch on that myself.

Yeah, the secret itself was altogether... pretty retarded XD; I guess my initial, 'uh. what?' reaction was subdued because I got a sneak peek of the secret last night because it was like, 'WHAT ALBEL? HAY CORI.' I did express some 'you're doing it wrong' in my initial comment but shit if I feel like going to fetch it D|

[identity profile] ex-monarchy375.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly!

Yeah, I did. I mean that like...that's not my big problem here. XD; If it hadn't been all "CREEPY PROTAGONIST OBSESSION = GAY" I again, wouldn't have said anything. 'Cause like I said, I could care less! XD Everyone's got their opinions, and they're entitled to them--I just get annoyed as hell when there's absolutely no reasoning behind it. Which was actually the point I was trying to make about the whole thing, but I'll admit I didn't word everything the best I could've.

[identity profile] unite.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
I do see your point now, and like I said, it's one I agree with, regardless of whether or not I agree with your tone.

Either way, I think OP is dining on foot cuisine tonight.

[identity profile] ex-monarchy375.livejournal.com 2007-12-05 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. :D