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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-07-25 07:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #2761 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2761 ⌋

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Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a feminist. I think it's pointless and slightly insulting to use Western feminist beliefs in regards to what is and isn't sexist in Manga/anime. How women are treated in Japan is different from the west. Something that would be seen as 'negative' by western standards may very well be progressive for their culture (Sailor Moon, for example)

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
There's only one standard for justice.

I agree in that things can be an improvement on what exists, and therefore good, without necessarily being perfect, though. Like Sailor Moon. But the elements of it that are sexist are still sexist.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Only one standard for justice.

But why are you so convinced yours is the right one?

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
How are you not? How is it that you have you arrived at the Ultimate Standard of Justice, totally removed from any cultural or sociopolitical considerations?

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
I have ideas about justice, which are the best that I've come to using my reason, and I use them to judge things. I also know that they're probably incorrect and limited, and in many ways influenced by my cultural and social background. So I try to be flexible and open-minded about my particular ideas about justice, and listen if people disagree with me and make compelling cases. However, the imperfectness of my particular ideas about justice is not evidence that there are no correct ideas about justice.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
Sailor Moon is more progressive by Western standards than Japanese standards.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
IA except for Bunny Drop

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-27 12:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, Bunny Drop is insane.

I don't know how it was received in Japan.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
The problem with this line of thinking is that it assumes human rights should be dictated by culture. While I don't disagree that something negative in the West could actually be progressive in Japan, Japan is also extremely horrible at women's equality and feminism. Seriously, just a year or two ago, in a ranking of the world's countries on women's rights, Japan scored... 102. Didn't even make the top 100. (The US was like, 22 or something, iirc).

Some things are sexist no matter what the culture. How women are treated in Japan is different from the West, but that doesn't make it "okay". And I certainly don't mean Japan must adopt Western culture or whatever. But Japan doesn't get a pass, it is a sexist country. It's not "western feminism" to want women to have more representation in business and politics, for example, or school girls to not get regularly groped on trains (often played for laughs in anime/manga) and so on.

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
What feminist where says that SM is "negative"??

Re: Confessions

(Anonymous) 2014-07-26 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
I would agree with this if not for the fact that Japanese culture is built on a much stronger patriarchal foundation than America ever was. When you have female Japanese senators being verbally abused in front of an audience, posters about watching for perverts on trains because "keeping the peace" and not speaking up is so ingrained in society, and concepts like "Christmas cake" referring to women becoming undesirable in their late 20s, you have a problem. It is a problem that should be approached differently than the U.S., sure, but it doesn't mean feminism and equality are completely out of place.