[ SECRET POST #2766 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2766 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Rent]


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03.
[Attack on Titan]


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04.
[Game of Thrones]


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05.
[Jeff the Killer/creepypasta]


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06.
[the last airbender/ lok]


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07.
[Steven Universe]


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08.
[Michael Ballack]


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09.
[Transformers]


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Notes:

Staying late at work again. Sorry. :(

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Comments

Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

It's pretty bad. You'd think someone would just LOOK at the damn picture and realize that there might be some unfortunate implications. But nope.

I'm going to say this was likely a result of stupidity rather than intentionally trying to make a statement. (One can only hope…)

I haven't watched the show though. Does adding context make it better, worse, or stay the same?

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

The context is that Dany goes to various slave-owning cities in the 'mysterious eastern continent' freeing the slaves and killing the masters, before moving on to the next one, before they realise "oh shit, my communist utopia is kinda failing" for the usual reasons. So she decides to stay in her latest conquest and rule it in practice for when she goes to take back her real kingdom. In the picture, she's just freed one city, and all the former slaves come out chanting 'mother' in their native tongue before crowdsurfing her, which is what makes it really special.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

Ah…I guess it could be worse. But that explanation doesn't really make it better either. So…same status I guess.

Although that plot line sounds ill-conceived from the get-go.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

So it's bad for people to own slaves, but it's also bad for white people to free slaves? And it's bad for the former slaves to be grateful to the person who freed them?

I understand that outside the fictional world in question, the image has mass amounts of associated baggage, but I will never feel that it is wrong for anybody to free slaves, no matter the color of the liberator, or of the slave.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

The argument is that it's bad to write a story where a magical white outsider frees all the slaves, single-handedly and without any moral complications.

We are not living in Westeros.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

The moral complications, much like winter, are coming.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

One, the advantage and the flaw of working in a televisual medium is that images matter.

Second, it's admittedly been quite some time since I read the book, but I don't recall anything complicating things in a racial direction specifically.

So I don't know how much any of that goes to ameliorate this problem specifically. Of course, I don't think it's all that big of a problem; it's a shitty, poorly-chosen shot with bad implications, but nothing's perfect.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

Not a racial direction, but definitely a cultural one. It's pretty clear in the books she doesn't understand the culture of the people she's trying to rule, and that's causing problems for the very people she's trying to help.

but, well, in the books it would have to be cultural since I got the impression that there was a racial mix in the cities she freed. whereas on TV...

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like maybe you're kinda sorta missing the point here. Nobody is saying it's bad to free slaves. NOBODY. So you can put down that argument, because your earnest counterargument is not required.

The problem lies in that Great White Savior is a racist cliché, that freedom for a bunch of brown-skinned savages is only possible via an enlightened white person. Also, it's not just that this scenario comes with "mass amounts of associated baggage", but that it's a scenario that has a near monopoly on ANY story that involves freeing of slaves.

Again: NOBODY IS SAYING IT'S BAD TO FREE SLAVES OR THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE BAD FOR DOING IT. NOBODY.

Re: Yeah…

[(Anonymous)]

She's not particularly enlightned...she just has a bigger army. And dragons. She doesn't come in with any particular ~grand wisdom~ or anything, just brute force. Don't think that's particularly admirable, but whatever, that's me.