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⌈ Secret Post #2769 ⌋

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Comments

[kallanda_lee]

The problem is that it's also sort of dickish to assume someone needs help, especially if it's a celeb you only know about through the filter of media.


In Shiloh's case, hypothetically:

Maybe the kid IS trans, the parents know, but are just not telling them media because that's how they protect their child.

Maybe the kid will grow up to be a butch lesbian, but she's not at the point where romantic attraction's even an issue..

Maybe the kid is a straight girl who dislikes dresses and dolls, and likes dinosaurs.

Maybe in ANY of those 3 cases the kid is not really old enough to care.

The point is

a) Maybe the kid is getting help, it's just not spewed all over the press

b) Maybe the kid doesn't need help because it's not (yet) an issue. SOME kids will come out as trans at age 5, but certainly not all of them. I know someone who didn't realize she wanted to transition until her late 40's.

c) And yeah, maybe the kid is trans and could do with help, but then it's still not the internet's duty to analyze that.

d) And there's a myriad of other options not even mentioned here.

The fact is, no-one knows (except maybe the family) but in the mean time this child, who hasn't even chosen to be in the spotlight, has their pics analyzed by the fans and by paparazzi which is sort of gross.

And I'm not talking about simple headcanons, but about people who actually choose to write about this, sometimes for a professional medium.

I get that having positive role models makes it easier for non-famous trans people to get help, and that it really sucks when they don't, but bombarding a celeb's child as your role model, when you haven't so much as met them real life, is sort of shitty, too.

[(Anonymous)]

Was the professional article really in support of that kid being trans, or was it just moral panic about a girl being messed up by her parents giving her boy toys. Because that happens a lot. See also: don't paint your baby's nursery pink, it'll make him gay.

[kallanda_lee]

The one I read wasn't in support, it was mostly just wildly speculating.

[(Anonymous)]

So why are you acting like anyone is forcing transness on her?

[kallanda_lee]

Because I guess I find the speculation itself bad enough? Just let the kid be a kid?

And I have seen some blogs that DID claim she MUST be trans, but I don't count those as professional media.

Seriously, just imagine being that kid - regardless of what gender or sexual orientation she'll turn out being and reading those articles. It must be really creepy finding out random strangers were obsessed enough with your gender identity to write about it profusely.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, claiming to know that a child you never met is trans is a bad thing. Assuming nobody is ever trans, vehemently arguing against suggestions that someone (even a child you never met) may be trans is also bad. Because they might be. This argument has nothing to do with transness, it's about leaving celebrities' kids to grow up in peace. If a shitty newspaper clutches it's pearls over a girl liking boy toys it's ok to suggest that trans people exist and don't deserve the pearl clutching.

[(Anonymous)]

I wouldn't argue against the idea that the child may be trans. I would argue against any suggestion that the child IS trans or any attempt to use any kind of distantly-perceived information as evidence one way or the other. I think there's a distinction there.

[(Anonymous)]

DA
I agree. I've seen quite a bit of claims (General media: She's doing femininity wrong so bad parenting, Online community: He's obviously trans so bad world for not accepting my dictate) and it sucks every way you see it. Children should be allowed to develop and grow without feeling pressure from outside forces to conform to whatever those outside forces believe they should be/do.