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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-08-03 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2770 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2770 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Just to add a bit to this (although I'm afraid it might start wank but it's still how I feel), I don't understand the point in saying, for example, a slash or femmeslash ship isn't canon. Of course it's not canon. We all KNOW that. We also know WHY. I just feel like it's a pointless thing to bring up. And, I'll admit, it grinds my gears a bit when shippers of a canon couple (always heterosexual) bring up canonicity as though it's supposed to prove a point.

Yes your ship is canon. That doesn't mean it's objectively good (you like it -- good for you, and I mean that sincerely), but that doesn't mean I have to like it or support it. I respect your right to ship it. I just don't agree with your perspective.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
The reason prefacing has become necessary is the vocal minority is ruining what used to be a harmless past time for everyone. By insisting their ship is canon when it is demonstratedly not and then complaining loudly to the ptb that they're not writing the ship correctly - as has been done in both Teen Wolf and Supernatural to name two egregious examples - they make all shippers look like delusional head cases.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-08-03 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do the regular shippers have to add a disclaimer instead of everyone remembering that it's a minority who doesn't realize it's not canon?

Actually, why does everyone care so much if they do think it's canon? So they're wrong. Argue with them if you enjoy that sort of thing or let them bask in their wrongness. I don't see how it affects anyone else.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
There isn't a good answer other then it's what happens when a few inform the opinion of the many. Ask a destiel shipper (vanilla version) how they are regarded because of the minority hypershippers. Never mind I'll tell you my experience. People started looking for other signs of crazy where there were none.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-08-03 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry they've made things so frustrating. I still think the people looking for signs of crazy deserve some of the blame (not arguing with you; I've just noticed that people always seem to blame the minority way more than the ones making wrong assumptions).

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for that. I got into Supernatural late and was blissfully unaware of where the snakepits were. It was an eye opening experience that was followed by a fast retreat.

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(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's like every situation where there's a vocal fringe minority ruining things for the majority: they are so loud and toxic and prone to shoving themselves in everywhere there might be a tangential connection to their obsession that to anyone outside the group itself, they look and sound like they are actually the majority.

Adding a disclaimer is the fandom equivalent of saying "dude, no, stop it, you're going overboard".

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I understand what you mean. I wish shippers wouldn't do that. But I think a lot of people don't want to come to terms with the fact that their ship will NEVER be canon. And that kind of sucks. Sometimes it's more fun to live in a delusion where you're happier. But you're right that it does tend to ruin the experience for the more level-headed shippers.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
"Of course it's not canon. We all KNOW that."

I always get tricked by this in Free! fandom. Do they really???

(Anonymous) 2014-08-04 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about the fandom but I'm aware of it. The other people I know who are into the show are aware of it. But I'm not really part of the fandom.

(Anonymous) 2014-08-03 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
+1 Absolutely fucking agreed.